Do you fear Trump replacing RBG with a Judge off his list?

concernedpuma · Oct 12, 2018

Sorry to write, your sub-line =
“…it is easier for a 12- or 13-year-old to purchase a gun, and cheaper, than it is for them to get a book.” – Barack Obama/
Is a certain lie where I live, and most likely the rest of the nation. Maybe it is so in Chicago, Ill. But, nowhere else. Illinois, Hmmm. Am I mistaken. or isn't that where your prophet came from?
Regards,
CP

<alt>doxygen · Oct 12, 2018

concernedpuma said:
I had a different take on his performance. If it is true, and I believe it is, that he was so wrongfully and terribly accused, the best person ought to go down fighting. If so wrongfully accused, you would and so would I.
I honestly believe that when he answered to the unfounded charges in front of the committee, it was more important to him to set the record straight and stand up for his reputation and family image, than be confirmed. Further, the terrible accusations were just that, nothing more, and will always be so.
Regards,
CP

I'm old enough to remember the Thomas / Hill mess, which was quite similar. Thomas didn't threaten half of the country with "what goes around comes around" or blame (without evidence) something similar to a "Clinton conspiracy". I don't like Thomas' jurisprudence much, but he handled that situation with dignity befitting a SCOTUS justice. I would have voted to confirm.

In my opinion where Kavanaugh went over the line was with that arrogant, belligerent Trumpian rant. I don't know if he was acting out for the right wing base or if that's the real Brett, but I would not have voted to confirm him. And I say that knowing the next person in line is even more of an extremist (based on record).

JMHO, of course.

<alt>doxygen · Oct 12, 2018

Cassandra said:
No she is not extreme. Maybe you missed this article:

In fact, R.B.G. is on record for saying that the S.C. should not get ahead of established law. She is really quite reasonable and conservative based on the original meaning of the word, "conservative". In fact, she was not supported by many left leaning women during her nomination. We need more justices like her.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-supreme-court

I think there may be an issue with the definition of "established law" there, but I guess we just have to agree to disagree here. I don't hate RBG like the right does, I just see her as the left-most sitting justice.

antiquity · Oct 13, 2018

Notice Sotomayor looking at Ginsberg.... wondering if she is still alive?

antiquity · Oct 13, 2018

VanceMack said:
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I think the Notorious RBG has at LEAST another 2 years left in her and if Trump wins again in 2020 (I still doubt he runs in 2020) I think the left will replace her with a robot. But if the economy is still thriving and since, typically, the economy drives elections, it may very well be Trump or another republican that wins in 2020, so its entirely likely that SOMEONE will replace any number of the justices. Even though its a lifetime appointment, a healthy life after 75 isnt guaranteed for anyone.

Notice Sotomayor looking at Ginsberg.... wondering if she is still alive?

jet57 · Oct 13, 2018

Renae said:
On FB one of my friends said the need to defeat the GOP in 2020 is now more critical than ever because Ruth Bader Ginsburg's ability to make it to 2024 due to age is in high doubt. They are like, in total meltdown mode now. I was curious if others feel that way. Personally I'd love to see her replaced with a more originalist Jurist, obviously.

Nope. We now know that the Republicans are using the court for a political tool so we're going to have to impeach the egregious ones and put in no partisans; it;s the on;y way we can save the sanctity of the court and our Constitution.

concernedpuma · Oct 14, 2018

jet57 said:
Nope. We now know that the Republicans are using the court for a political tool so we're going to have to impeach the egregious ones and put in no partisans; it;s the on;y way we can save the sanctity of the court and our Constitution.

Could you define being used as (or being) a Political tool as you use it here? How could any party use the court as a political tool?
Regards,
CP

Acadia · Oct 14, 2018

Cardinal said:
The conservative glee at the thought of Ginsburg's death is pretty par for the course for trump supporters.

Like the Left wasn't hoping RBG would skip her daily Geritol while Obama was in office.

Acadia · Oct 14, 2018

TurtleDude said:
I am sure that is their plan and RBG is one tough old bird but a couple people i know who have argued before the Court in the last year are saying she's really declining fast. Scalia-her best friend in life-dying, really was a big blow

I'd like to know what percentage of the time she's actually awake.

What I'm curious about is whether the Dems will try to change (and maybe succeed) SCOTUS to 11 Justices. They are losing their ever loving **** now that the court isn't packed with liberals and they won't abide by not having the "swing vote". The one complaining the most about it-Kagan-could consider moderating HER opinions, but that would mean actually solving the problem herself.

jet57 · Oct 14, 2018

concernedpuma said:
Could you define being used as (or being) a Political tool as you use it here? How could any party use the court as a political tool?
Regards,
CP

Heller.

concernedpuma · Oct 14, 2018

jet57 said:
Heller.

A little mysterious...
At first, I wondered if you were writing of Joseph Heller. I guess now you mean Heller vs D.C. Is that so? If so, how is ruling on the validity of the 2nd Amendment a political tool? As an aside, wasn't the President a Democrat in 2008?
Regards,
CP

jet57 · Oct 14, 2018

concernedpuma said:
A little mysterious...
At first, I wondered if you were writing of Joseph Heller. I guess now you mean Heller vs D.C. Is that so? If so, how is ruling on the validity of the 2nd Amendment a political tool? As an aside, wasn't the President a Democrat in 2008?
Regards,
CP

For the first time in the history of the country the conservative decision just had to say that the second amendment meant that the right to bear arms was separate from the militia. In all that time, nobody thought about it, nobody'd considered any question on meaning, but it had to be parsed and hair splitted because of the political right and the NRA.

concernedpuma · Oct 14, 2018

jet57 said:
For the first time in the history of the country the conservative decision just had to say that the second amendment meant that the right to bear arms was separate from the militia. In all that time, nobody thought about it, nobody'd considered any question on meaning, but it had to be parsed and hair splitted because of the political right and the NRA.

Uh huh. And....
Regards,
CP

azgreg · Oct 31, 2018

Miss Kitty said:
John Bolton would be a good pick.

Said no-one ever.

Vox · Oct 31, 2018

Renae said:
On FB one of my friends said the need to defeat the GOP in 2020 is now more critical than ever because Ruth Bader Ginsburg's ability to make it to 2024 due to age is in high doubt. They are like, in total meltdown mode now. I was curious if others feel that way. Personally I'd love to see her replaced with a more originalist Jurist, obviously.

Ginsburg sold her soul to the Devil and will live to be 127 and die on the bench.

Since she's already semi-conscious or unconscious most of the time.......it will take seven months before they notice she's dead.

Fishking · Oct 31, 2018

Renae said:
On FB one of my friends said the need to defeat the GOP in 2020 is now more critical than ever because Ruth Bader Ginsburg's ability to make it to 2024 due to age is in high doubt. They are like, in total meltdown mode now. I was curious if others feel that way. Personally I'd love to see her replaced with a more originalist Jurist, obviously.

I personally believe that in the advent of that scenario, where Trump stays in, the GOP holds the Senate, and RBG ends up going away then I believe we may have an actual near existential crisis in the country due to the actions of the left.

Fishking · Oct 31, 2018

Cardinal said:
The conservative glee at the thought of Ginsburg's death is pretty par for the course for trump supporters.

Stop making stuff up...there was no such thing in the OP>

Bullseye · Oct 31, 2018

Cardinal said:
The conservative glee at the thought of Ginsburg's death is pretty par for the course for trump supporters.

Doesn't quite match the loony left's celebrations when Scalia passed away. And then McConnell ate your lunch and made you clean the dishes. :lamo

The Mark · Oct 31, 2018

Renae said:
On FB one of my friends said the need to defeat the GOP in 2020 is now more critical than ever because Ruth Bader Ginsburg's ability to make it to 2024 due to age is in high doubt. They are like, in total meltdown mode now. I was curious if others feel that way. Personally I'd love to see her replaced with a more originalist Jurist, obviously.

Originalist jurists are a lie.
They only follow that when they want to.

The Citizens United decision, among many others, is an example of that lie.

There is no way in hell that money should be considered speech, and it's use in politics protected by 1st Amendment.

Casper · Oct 31, 2018

PleasantValley said:
That old fossil needs to go as she has already shown her extreme bias toward the left.

My wife completely hates her and wishes she would just die.
I tell her to quit talking like that every time she does.
Not cricket.

Some times you might want to rethink sharing such information, just saying....

Nap · Oct 31, 2018

The Mark said:
Originalist jurists are a lie.
They only follow that when they want to.

The Citizens United decision, among many others, is an example of that lie.

There is no way in hell that money should be considered speech, and it's use in politics protected by 1st Amendment.

Is there really a difference between me paying for ads/billboards to support a candidate and me giving money directly to a politician's campaign so that he can do them?

Harshaw · Oct 31, 2018

The Mark said:
Originalist jurists are a lie.
They only follow that when they want to.

The Citizens United decision, among many others, is an example of that lie.

There is no way in hell that money should be considered speech, and it's use in politics protected by 1st Amendment.

:roll:

They didn't rule that.

Does anyone who rails on that case actually know what they ruled?

wist43 · Oct 31, 2018

No, I fear Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

She should have been impeached many years ago.

VanceMack · Oct 31, 2018

She stays in pretty good shape...it looks like she follows the Obama bulk workout exercise plan.

The Mark · Oct 31, 2018

Nap said:
Is there really a difference between me paying for ads/billboards to support a candidate and me giving money directly to a politician's campaign so that he can do them?

Yes.

Quite obviously.

Do you fear Trump replacing RBG with a Judge off his list?