Do you care about the national debt?

[W_Heisenberg]

How do you feel about one of the worst bills in U.S. history in terms of blowing up the budget, drastically increasing the deficit, and adding to the debt?

 

[hecatmoggie]

nobody can vote yes

why?

Democrats have run it up and up over and over with their control of House and/or Senate
Republicans have run it up and up over and over with their control of House and/or Senate

unless you voted independent? then you voted for $37 trillion in debt - its what our brilliant Fed Govt has done over and over with no accountability

 

[Airyaman]

I've always cared about the debt but realized long ago that no politician cares about it. They very much proved my point with Trump's BUB.

 

[NuffSaid]

nobody can vote yes

why?

Democrats have run it up and up over and over with their control of House and/or Senate
Republicans have run it up and up over and over with their control of House and/or Senate

unless you voted independent? then you voted for $37 trillion in debt - its what our brilliant Fed Govt has done over and over with no accountability

Your side is ready to add trillions more.
Lemme guess, you'll gladly vote them back in 2026.

 

[NuffSaid]

I've always cared about the debt but realized long ago that no politician cares about it. They very much proved my point with Trump's BUB.

Mike Lee is a clown whose only job is felate Trump.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Your side is ready to add trillions more.
Lemme guess, you'll gladly vote them back in 2026.

yep that's what they're doing

Obama added trillions each year, Trump 1.0 did, Biden did and this 4 years of Trump 2.0 appears to be doing the same

warning - Democrats and Republican's will say in 2028 national debt is a huge concern ... I think the last 2 decades should be remembered and they're all liars about it

 

[Mycroft]

How do you feel about one of the worst bills in U.S. history in terms of blowing up the budget, drastically increasing the deficit, and adding to the debt?

Don't put the cart before the horse.

Before you can fill the hole (reduce the debt) you have to stop digging (out of control spending).

 

[Airyaman]

Don't put the cart before the horse.

Before you can fill the hole (reduce the debt) you have to stop digging (out of control spending).

In my house, I don't take a pay cut to help pay the bills.

You?

 

[Bok Tuklo]

yep that's what they're doing

Obama added trillions each year, Trump 1.0 did, Biden did and this 4 years of Trump 2.0 appears to be doing the same

warning - Democrats and Republican's will say in 2028 national debt is a huge concern ... I think the last 2 decades should be remembered and they're all liars about it

You forgot about Clinton.

Regardless, maybe if Republicans would stop crashing the economy, requiring massive government intervention, we could get back to the Clinton years.

 

[Mr Person]

nobody can vote yes

why?

Democrats have run it up and up over and over with their control of House and/or Senate
Republicans have run it up and up over and over with their control of House and/or Senate

unless you voted independent? then you voted for $37 trillion in debt - its what our brilliant Fed Govt has done over and over with no accountability

A person doesn't care about something unless it's the only issue they vote for? What an idiotically simplistic attempt to *get* people.



For others, since he's not going to be posting anything worth reading:

Republicans explode the deficit every time with tax cuts for the upper crust, going back to Reagan, and for the bigot base they hand out culture wars on vulnerable groups.

Democrats at least try to improve the situation for average Americans, even if they don't undo GOP tax cuts. They don't pass tax cuts then squawk about how we need to throw out the safety net to pay for it.

Meanwhile, I doubt that "independents" would ever do what needs to be done, which is vote to undo GOP tax cuts aka raise taxes, not that they have any chance of getting elected in most districts/states (and most certainly not federally). Independents also typically do not support the things I support.



And since when does someone not care about something at all unless it's their only single issue?

And even if it were true, why the hell would I vote for people who won't address that issue properly and who support all sorts of crap I'm against?

And even if that weren't a completely moronic sentiment, how could it affect my vote when nobody is doing the thing they need to do to address that something? To escape some internet rando's dumbassed gotcha game?

 

[Daisy]

I pay my due in taxes...what they do with it is on them...

 

[dmpi]

Massive deficits were needed to fix one time anomalies such as the pandemic, the 2008 banking crisis, 9/11, dot-com bust, Y2K, global warming, student loan crisis, health care crisis, etc . The root problem is there's one disaster after another. It's really a question of perception and our belief that money can solve everything. Even when we do have a solution we have poor money management and poor execution making fixes cost twice as much as they should.

 

[Felis Leo]

How do you feel about one of the worst bills in U.S. history in terms of blowing up the budget, drastically increasing the deficit, and adding to the debt?

I feel the only silver lining is that if we still have a democracy left in 4-8 years, Medicare for all and a national wealth tax on the nation’s richest will both be viable options.

 

[uptower]

Republicans only care about the debt when a democrat is in office or they want to cut welfare.

But when it comes to tax cuts for the rich, defence spending and military adventurism, pfft. Money? Spend baby spend!

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Massive deficits were needed to fix one time anomalies such as the pandemic, the 2008 banking crisis, 9/11, dot-com bust, Y2K, global warming, student loan crisis, health care crisis, etc . The root problem is there's one disaster after another. It's really a question of perception and our belief that money can solve everything. Even when we do have a solution we have poor money management and poor execution making fixes cost twice as much as they should.

No, there have only been two in the last 40 years: the Financial Collapse of 2008 and COVID.

 

[uptower]

Massive deficits were needed to fix one time anomalies such as the pandemic, the 2008 banking crisis, 9/11, dot-com bust, Y2K, global warming, student loan crisis, health care crisis, etc . The root problem is there's one disaster after another. It's really a question of perception and our belief that money can solve everything. Even when we do have a solution we have poor money management and poor execution making fixes cost twice as much as they should.

Big Balls is on it

 

[hecatmoggie]

You forgot about Clinton.

Regardless, maybe if Republicans would stop crashing the economy, requiring massive government intervention, we could get back to the Clinton years.

so the 8 years of Obama and 4 years of Biden adding trillions of debt was Republican's fault AND the 4 years of Trump was their fault AND all the years the House and Senate was GOP controlled is their fault AND all the years Democrats controlled House and Senate is the Republican's fault ....

see the trend? blame everything on someone else ....

 

[hecatmoggie]

A person doesn't care about something unless it's the only issue they vote for? What an idiotically simplistic attempt to *get* people.



For others, since he's not going to be posting anything worth reading:

Republicans explode the deficit every time with tax cuts for the upper crust, going back to Reagan, and for the bigot base they hand out culture wars on vulnerable groups.

Democrats at least try to improve the situation for average Americans, even if they don't undo GOP tax cuts. They don't pass tax cuts then squawk about how we need to throw out the safety net to pay for it.

Meanwhile, I doubt that "independents" would ever do what needs to be done, which is vote to undo GOP tax cuts aka raise taxes, not that they have any chance of getting elected in most districts/states (and most certainly not federally). Independents also typically do not support the things I support.



And since when does someone not care about something at all unless it's their only single issue?

And even if it were true, why the hell would I vote for people who won't address that issue properly and who support all sorts of crap I'm against?

And even if that weren't a completely moronic sentiment, how could it affect my vote when nobody is doing the thing they need to do to address that something? To escape some internet rando's dumbassed gotcha game?

show me national Debt wasn't added during Obama/Biden years

show me national Debt wasn't added when Democrats controlled House and Senate and all the cost cutting measures they did to reduce out national debt


they didn't - that's liberal media lies, don't believe it, both parties add trillions and both parties blame the other side.

its not THE only issue ... but its one that many people cared about/cares about. I did. I don't anymore, I realize the truth

 

[Blue Dog]

President Andrew Jackson dissolved the Second National Bank to pay off the National Debt.

I would imagine a POTUS meeting a mysterious fate if he/she attempted to do the same with the FED.

Its never getting paid off and no one seems care other than for political fodder…

 

[Isidore]

Massive deficits were needed to fix one time anomalies such as the pandemic, the 2008 banking crisis, 9/11, dot-com bust, Y2K, global warming, student loan crisis, health care crisis, etc .

Y2K.

 

[Mycroft]

In my house, I don't take a pay cut to help pay the bills.

You?

In my house, if I'm spending more than I earn...you know, building a debt...I tend to reduce spending first (stop digging)

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

How do you feel about one of the worst bills in U.S. history in terms of blowing up the budget, drastically increasing the deficit, and adding to the debt?

Two different questions.

The bill stinks. It's another transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich.

But deficits and sovereign "debt" are not inherently bad things. Governments with their own currencies have the power to create and spend their own money. Bond issuance is just another way of doing that.

So a bill costing the same $5 trillion that spends that money on the poor, or on programs for the poor, is a good investment. People get some benefits, workers earn some money, and the money eventually filters up to rich capitalists, as always. Which is better than just handing it to the rich and bypassing the benefits of spending it into the economy.

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

President Andrew Jackson dissolved the Second National Bank to pay off the National Debt.

I would imagine a POTUS meeting a mysterious fate if he/she attempted to do the same with the FED.

Its never getting paid off and no one seems care other than for political fodder…

And we went into a massive depression after he did that.

 

[Airyaman]

In my house, if I'm spending more than I earn...you know, building a debt...I tend to reduce spending first (stop digging)

It would be great if the BUB did that.

It doesn't.

It reduces income far more than it reduces spending. Like 4x as much.

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

You forgot about Clinton.

Regardless, maybe if Republicans would stop crashing the economy, requiring massive government intervention, we could get back to the Clinton years.

...which were also followed by a recession.