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Especially since what you posted doesn't parse into English. Do try again and ask what you want to know in a clear and concise manner. And don't post drunk, that's always helpful.
The text of the Constitution won't change your bizarre and unclear posting style.
sorry but it does if you read, you will find privileges in the body of the constitution, and then rights recognized by government in the bill of rights.
rights are natural rights
privileges are created by government
sorry but it does if you read, you will find privileges in the body of the constitution, and then rights recognized by government in the bill of rights.
rights are natural rights
privileges are created by government
Some people have no clue how to carry out an intellectual debate, they just keep repeating the same thing over and over again without realizing that they have to actually back up their statements with evidence. No wonder libertarians are so laughable.
why does this semantical hoop even matter?
rights do not require an action from government, but only that government stand back and the rights exercised
privileges require government action, government must do something for the privileges to be exercised.
since government must perform an action for you to have a privilege, then government has power to determine if you will have the privilege or not.
right to vote, yawn
to the founders voting is a privilege.....as stated by the constitution.
the USSC took voting out of state constitutions, recognizing it as a right......but in reality its not because a government action must be performed for voting to take place.
The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the goverment.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
to the founders voting is a privilege.....as stated by the constitution.
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Is the concept that FDR is speaking of considered blasphemy
The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the goverment.
red = wrong
black = correct
governments have killed more people and violated the rights of more people then anyone person or group ever has.
"the first bulwark shall be the senate controlled by the state legislatures, followed by the second bulwark which shall be the federal courts"
government looks out for its own interest, "as government power grows, liberty recedes"
Then they were wrong.
no they were not, the USSC was wrong.
how can the people who created the constitution, be wrong about it?
And who ultimately elects the government to power?
Because they were human and we all make mistakes.
state legislatures elected the senate before the 17th NOT THE PEOPLE..its purpose was to BLOCK the COLLECTIVE capacity of the people, and place a CHECK on federal power.
And what exists as a block against the states?
The Supreme Court.
no ..no mistake about it for the founders, only the court.
Nope they goofed and the Constitution has been amended. C ya Charlie I'm bored with playing semantical hop scotch.
That's why I consider libertarianism to be more of a religion than a political position. They have to have blind and unassailable faith in their positions, no matter how absurd they are.
my personal opinion, is not what others may interpret from the DOI its up to the reader....but as for me myself, yes, but thats me, and not other people might think.
This topic seems to have popped up in a few threads recently so I thought I'd put this together. Put simply do you believe in the concept of natural rights? That is to say rights that are "not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable".
Personally I don't. I think that Hobbes had it right when he intimated that the only 'natural right' that a human being possesses is the right to strive for their own survival. Everything else exists only at the sufferance of your own strength or the kindness of others. It is part of what makes civilization so essential and so valuable, because by creating a society we attempt to lift ourselves out of that war of all against all. This allows for freedom of speech, property rights, press freedoms, freedom of worship, etc. Absent organized society these 'rights' would be purely theoretical.
its plain as the nose on you face if you would start by reading the constitution....but you will not
well, there you are folks...nothing, nothing..i constantly hear rights are created by government by man..yet when proof is asked for...none is given!
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