disneydude
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BHO threw away victory in Iraq and enabled the rise of ISIS. He has overseen the slowest economic growth imaginable. His international credibility is near zero. GWB made serious errors, but he did not put the fundamental position of the US at risk.
I didn't notice you telling us of all the things Obama has done wrong in cleaning up the messes you outlined that Bush did wrong.
Nor do I notice you acknowledging the fact that there is a transition between administrations.
Surely you would agree what Bush left was a catastrophe compared to what he inherited, such as a balanced budget .
BHO threw away victory in Iraq and enabled the rise of ISIS. He has overseen the slowest economic growth imaginable. His international credibility is near zero. GWB made serious errors, but he did not put the fundamental position of the US at risk.
The attack on GWB over Katrina was in fact not justified.
Agreed; and we currently are experiencing exponentially worse.We've had better.
"The bottom ten often includes Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, Warren G. Harding, Millard Fillmore, James Buchanan, Herbert Hoover, Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, John Tyler, and George W. Bush."
If you believe there was "victory" ever in Iraq...then you probably believed that whole "Mission Accomplished" as well. What enabled the rise of ISIS was going into Iraq and destabilizing an already volatile region. There would be no ISIS today except for GWB and the Cheney/Rumsfield neocon shortsight to invade Iraq without doing their homework as to what would happen. Sorry....but GWB has done more to put the US at risk than any President in modern history. See that is what happens when you have someone who wants to "talk tough" and "act tough" but doesn't think things through.
He didn't handle it as well as he might have, but damn, nothing like Katrina had EVER hit the USA and maybe nobody would have made all good decisions in the face of that. I don't know.
He didn't handle it as well as he might have, but damn, nothing like Katrina had EVER hit the USA and maybe nobody would have made all good decisions in the face of that. I don't know.
"The bottom ten often includes Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, Warren G. Harding, Millard Fillmore, James Buchanan, Herbert Hoover, Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, John Tyler, and George W. Bush."
I've always thought the criticism of Bush during Katrina was ginned up by a hostile media.
Historians Rate Bush near the bottom of failed presidents.
"The bottom ten often includes Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, Warren G. Harding, Millard Fillmore, James Buchanan, Herbert Hoover, Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, John Tyler, and George W. Bush."
GWB will forever be known as "The Herbert Hoover of the 21st Century". Sorry to burst your bubbles.
I've always thought the criticism of Bush during Katrina was ginned up by a hostile media.
You are new here, so I'll give you a friendly heads-up:
When posting something in quotes ("....."), give a link to wherever you got it from or cite the source if it's not a website.
Believe me, you'll save yourself a whole lot of hassle from other forum members.
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Prior to Katrina US doctrine was that the Feds acted in support of local and state authorities. In Louisiana and New Orleans those evaporated so there was no place for the Feds to plug in.
It is too early to rank Clinton, G.W. or Obama... it takes a while. Also, most of the "worst" were before and after the single largest travesty ever to hit the nation... the Civil War.
That said, Obama will easily be in the worst catagory in a couple of decades and I bet Bush will climb up as perspective takes a hold of people's emotions.
I've always thought the criticism of Bush during Katrina was ginned up by a hostile media.
For sure the Louisiana governor and mayor exacerbated things. But the general handling of the clean up, relocation efforts, etc. were not as efficient as they could have been. Bush's fault? No. But it did happen under his watch so the buck stops here and all that.
That's certainly a reasonable view. Politically the attacks on GWB had already crescendoed long before clean up or relocation.
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