How is it wrong to state the obvious? Why else would we be hearing about this from a trial lawyer with no foreign policy credentials? My stepmother is Jewish by the way.
You must have that perma-linked at this point with as much as you needed to use it.
Wow, just...wow.
You've combined "just telling it like it is" with the equivalent of "I have a black friend."
Be back after I read this thing
Thom Paine
And you didn't answer my question either. Why is he suddenly a expert on treaties and foreign policy?
And you didn't answer my question either. Why is he suddenly a expert on treaties and foreign policy?
After reading your citation I remain sceptical.... It seems a 6 month agreement to agree to continue discussing an agreement should certain stipulations be fulfilled. Stipulations that will take longer than 6 months to develop a verifiable inspection system.
For me, This situation is very 'iffy' at best and may be a stalling tactic or a diversionary attempt to forestall an attack from S.A. and Isr.
I hope for the best; it seems unlikely to occur.
Thom Paine
Does that really matter?
IOW ... isn't it more important to read how Iran chooses to interpret the thing?
After reading your citation I remain sceptical.... It seems a 6 month agreement to agree to continue discussing an agreement should certain stipulations be fulfilled. Stipulations that will take longer than 6 months to develop a verifiable inspection system.
For me, This situation is very 'iffy' at best and may be a stalling tactic or a diversionary attempt to forestall an attack from S.A. and Isr.
I hope for the best; it seems unlikely to occur.
Thom Paine
I don't have a problem with a six month trial period. It's long enough to figure out the kinks in the agreement, and short enough so that we're not stuck with a crappy one. If we have reason to believe that Iran is holding up their end of the bargain and if Iran decides it likes the economic incentives as a result of it, then we'll almost certainly extend the life of the agreement.
After reading your citation I remain sceptical.... It seems a 6 month agreement to agree to continue discussing an agreement should certain stipulations be fulfilled. Stipulations that will take longer than 6 months to develop a verifiable inspection system.
For me, This situation is very 'iffy' at best and may be a stalling tactic or a diversionary attempt to forestall an attack from S.A. and Isr.
I hope for the best; it seems unlikely to occur.
Thom Paine
I don't have a problem with a six month trial period. It's long enough to figure out the kinks in the agreement, and short enough so that we're not stuck with a crappy one. If we have reason to believe that Iran is holding up their end of the bargain and if Iran decides it likes the economic incentives as a result of it, then we'll almost certainly extend the life of the agreement.
Of course it is but we only have press releases from the WH. My scepticism reigns supreme in this matter. The administration's foreign policy expertise leaves me wanting.
Thom Paine
I sincerely hope you are correct and I am wrong.... (sigh...) time will tell.
Thom Paine
You seem to think that Iran would be swayed to stop their nuclear program because of an attack by Israel. If it was that easy Israel would have done it years ago.
I was discussing this with a friend and what I told him, when he expressed similar skepticism, is to look at the alternative. That is, if the plan falls through in six months, we are left with only two options when it comes to dealing with Iran: accept that they are going to have a nuclear program or launch a military attack and try to wipe them out. Given the alternative, I'd rather give peace a chance.
The WHITE HOUSE fact sheet? LOL!
What's there for me to be incorrect about? My position is that the points of the agreement appear positive on the face of it and that in six months we'll see how it works out. Now if you want to argue that the points are not, in fact, good, then that's one thing, but I don't think you can really argue that in six months time we'll find out.
If you have an alternate source for what is contained in the agreement that you believe is more credible, let's have it.
While I wouldn't exactly call Iran a burgeoning flower of democracy and progressivism, they have not expressed any desire I've found for war, but have instead acted consistently in the interests of self preservation. They cannot be considered irrational in the same way that the leadership of North Korea is. Point is, they don't war, let alone to be blown to kingdom come, any more than the next country.
I'd rather put it as, "take a chance on peace." The framework of this deal is honestly the only chance there is for a peaceful resolution to the Iran Nuclear issue. Will know in six months if it's for real or not, until then I say it's a win for Obama,
Out of curiosity, have you read what's in the deal?
Wow a Jew taking the Israeli position. Who would have thought?
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