Do other Europeans have the same image that watching republikans and democrats insulting each other feels much like watching arch rival footballhoolig

[german hick]

Do other Europeans have the same image that watching republikans and democrats insulting each other feels much like watching arch rival footballhooligans deal with each other? It´s all about feelings, nearly religios and arguments are collected AFTER judjing.

 

[german hick]

judging - I hate it when I cannot adjust my orthography because I cannot edit

 

[Infinite Chaos]

I think in some ways it's worse than football hooligans - hooligans might punch the crap out of each other but then that's it. Hooligans only affect the football image of the nation they are in whereas politicians and supporters who take such ultra positions against each other seem intent on affecting and indoctrinating everyone with their beliefs.

"Culture wars" are very much a thing of the alt-right in the USA but it has developed an almost equal and bitter contrast in the anti alt-right and we see elements being brought into UK politics.

One thing that makes me wonder though is that our politicians that get into Parliament often end up on committees together made up of mixed views (Labour / Conservative / Liberal Democrat etc) and they scrutinise and develop the Acts of Parliament that the government push through. Does the same happen in other European Governments?

How does the German Parliament work once a law has gone through its first vote? For that matter - what happens in the US now that Congress seems to have abdicated its responsibility and power after handing the President the power to govern mainly by Executive Order?
Executive Orders have always been part of American government but someone once said to me "Congress proposes, the President Disposes" meaning that the President signs off laws and acts that often began in Congress but Trump had signed (by July) 147 EOs and only 5 Acts.

Some of his EOs rescinded the EOs of the Biden Administration and you can almost predict the next Democrat President overturning as many of the Trump EOs as he/she can.

Madness!

judging - I hate it when I cannot adjust my orthography because I cannot edit

I forgive you cos I'm a nice guy.

 

[german hick]

I think in some ways it's worse than football hooligans - hooligans might punch the crap out of each other but then that's it. Hooligans only affect the football image of the nation they are in whereas politicians and supporters who take such ultra positions against each other seem intent on affecting and indoctrinating everyone with their beliefs.

"Culture wars" are very much a thing of the alt-right in the USA but it has developed an almost equal and bitter contrast in the anti alt-right and we see elements being brought into UK politics.

One thing that makes me wonder though is that our politicians that get into Parliament often end up on committees together made up of mixed views (Labour / Conservative / Liberal Democrat etc) and they scrutinise and develop the Acts of Parliament that the government push through. Does the same happen in other European Governments?

How does the German Parliament work once a law has gone through its first vote? For that matter - what happens in the US now that Congress seems to have abdicated its responsibility and power after handing the President the power to govern mainly by Executive Order?
Executive Orders have always been part of American government but someone once said to me "Congress proposes, the President Disposes" meaning that the President signs off laws and acts that often began in Congress but Trump had signed (by July) 147 EOs and only 5 Acts.

Some of his EOs rescinded the EOs of the Biden Administration and you can almost predict the next Democrat President overturning as many of the Trump EOs as he/she can.

Madness!



I forgive you cos I'm a nice guy.

Pretty similar here. We have "Ausschüsse" (committee) to several topics. There is some anger here from the brown side because the democratic parties denied the Afd the chairman chair in all committees. Normally it´s good habit to give any party at least one chair. The brown say that undemocratic. But not for me, because vast majority here does not want them there.

 

[german hick]

What I don´t get: it shall be the most individualistic land on earth, but nearly any citizn runs after one of the two herds...

 

[german hick]

I forgive you cos I'm a nice guy.

Thank you

 

[joluoto]

Eh, we are starting to see some if it here now, but because there are more than two teams it is different.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Do other Europeans have the same image that watching republikans and democrats insulting each other feels much like watching arch rival footballhooligans deal with each other? It´s all about feelings, nearly religios and arguments are collected AFTER judjing.

The sad fact is that most MAGA people don't listen to facts, data, reason, or analysis. Instead they just try to use those things as tools to promote an agenda and try to promote horrific things or whatever conspiracy theory of the day. That doesn't leave room for debate since they abandoned that years ago.

 

[Queen Margo]

The sad fact is that most MAGA people don't listen to facts, data, reason, or analysis. Instead they just try to use those things as tools to promote an agenda and try to promote horrific things or whatever conspiracy theory of the day. That doesn't leave room for debate since they abandoned that years ago.

They don't listen to manufactured facts, data, reason, or analysis. The Trump haters have brought fabrication to a new all time record.

 

[Gozaburo]

Do other Europeans have the same image that watching republikans and democrats insulting each other feels much like watching arch rival footballhooligans deal with each other? It´s all about feelings, nearly religios and arguments are collected AFTER judjing.

That's because all politics, including the politics of Europe, is effectively secularized religion.

Political parties (cults and temples) have their dogmas and mythologies which - when subjected to even an ounce of logical scrutiny - become either a. total bullshit or b. subjective issues which are really a matter of taste and preference, not "facts" and moral imperatives.