Econmic exploitation of the Muslims is the reason the Muslims were lured to Europe by the European Elite business community, for cheap labor.
Yes, eactly, just as the US has done and other nations have done. We did it in the 1960s and 70s pre oil crisis and the jobs were there. After the oil crisis the jobs were not there and have not been since. But did we kick out the workers, of course not our wushy wushy policies at the time prevented that. If there had been a greencard system in place, where the requirement to stay in country was a job, then we would not be in the situation we are today.
The Elite did not plan ahead that the Muslims would, years later, (NOW) not be content with low paying jobs, and social alienation.
Wrong. The first generation and even in part the second generation have not been in jobs since the 1970s often. Thier skills are so lacking that no one will hire them and on top of that there is the usual xenofobia that exists in all societies. I mean who would want to hire a person with a lower than 5th grade education if that at all, that barely if at all speaks the local langauge? What job on earth can he he do? It was fine when they worked in the factories where they were taught a skil (how to work x machine), but that machine has been retired ages ago or moved to the east.
The problem today is the following. The first generation of muslim immigrants came from the poorest backwater parts of Turkey and the slums of other nations. Quite a few could not read, and thier families were no better off, especially the women. They were and are logged in ancient traditions that are not compatible with a western world and feel not only out of touch with the homeland but dont feel like they fit into their new country. This of course has been passed on to the next generation, who are now getting an education (not always to the liking of the 1.st generation, especially for the females) and are then torn between ancient outdated traditions and the workings of a modern life. The most torn are of course the women, but the males are often so brainwashed and confused and hence alienated that they lash out at society.
The funny part, is that the traditons that these 1.st generation immigrants so much defend and cherrish often have all but disappeared in the home country/town they came from 30 years ago.
Now could Europe have done more to integrate them in the 60s and 70s.. sure, and they did attempt somewhat (language courses for the workers), but were frankly unprepared for such "different" people. But as I have stated in different debates on this subject time and time again.. it takes 2 to tango. When males of the first generation prevent the females from attending language classes so to fit better into society then you have a problem. When said males also refuse to learn the language, or allow thier children to learn, then frankly I lose my patience and respect for them. If they chose to come here, and chose to stay, then its thier bloody job to integrate by learning the language. The US does not have this problem, as you have 2 languages which are the 2 most spoken on the planet.
And Vader you are correct, the immigrants, muslim or not, have to want to integrate into society, but the standing complaint by many Americans on this board has been "its Europes fault" and that pisses me off. We have no problems with asians, eastern europeans, south americans, hell even most from Africa.. they at least attempt to try to fit in, even though they often cant even read.
As for police not going into areas or inforcing the law, well thats not exactly true. They dont go into areas, muslim or non muslim because its actually dangerous for them to do in single squad cars. They do go in, in force. For example, Christiania in Copenhagen. When they do patrol there, its in full body armour almost and in 3+ people. Is it a muslim area, no its a flower power area with anarchists and other margins of society (and Biker gangs). Most European cops are not in body armour like some American cops. Does the LAPD go into gang ridden areas of LA, 1 cop alone, with no body armour? I dont think so. Does that mean they dont inforce the law there?
Now does the police not inforce the law in muslim areas, of course it does. There is zero discrimination per say, but for the police to "inforce" the law, a crime has to be reported, and thats not always the case. And that does not have to be "muslim" areas, but can as easily be in the Romanny community (gypsis), or any other community of people who have had bad experience with authority figures like the police. In Spain for example I have read reports of Argentinians and others from South America in the early 1990s not alerting the police because they had bad experience with corrupt and brutal police back home. Even today some older Spaniards dont trust the cops because of Francos days.