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Did Obama act with integrity regarding the "Trump-Russia collusion" matter?

T25

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How about it?
 
What does Obama have to do with it?
 
Yes, Obama acted with integrity. He was known for his integrity and he showed far more integrity as POTUS than his successor did.
 
Yea, that's what I figured.
 
It doesn't appear so from what I've reading of the declassified information.
There's a thread on this in B/N.
 
lwf said:
Yes, Obama acted with integrity. He was known for his integrity and he showed far more integrity as POTUS than his successor did.
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Amazing.
 
Trump has been on his knees in front of the Russians since they bailed him out in the 90s, after somehow, he bankrupt the Plaza hotel in NYC.. He lost about $500 million..

Imagine.. A 5 star hotel, in the money capital in the world, and mister business man bankrupted it.. Lol.. To the point no American banks would touch him, so the Russians did.. Since then he's been their butt boy..
 
T25 said:
How about it?
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If you think he didn't, what's the evidence?

I preface this by saying it's been a while since I kept up with Russia-gate and I've not explored Tulsi's purported bombshell too deeply, but with that disclaimer out of the way, based on what I actually have read and heard, I think the most plausible scenario (in my mind, anyway) is that intel agents/analysts investigated the supposed Russian hack theory and concluded that the evidence wasn't there. That does not necessarily mean that Russia or some Russia-aligned agent didn't hack the Clinton campaign's emails, but investigators just didn't have technical evidence to support it, which supports what the MAGA-verse has been arguing all along.

Unfortunately, it seems to me that what may have also happened is that senior folks in the IC (especially Clapper, Brennan, and probably some foreign policy/intel wonks in the Clinton campaign, possibly even Hillary herself) were so convinced that Russia had such a hard-on for Sec. Clinton and were therefore so adamant that Russia was behind the hack that they concluded that absence of evidence in no way meant absence of guilt. A good analog for this might be how the Bush administration's intel/foreign policy hawks felt about Saddam's purported nukes.

I really don't believe Obama is the kind of person that would rationalize politicizing intel (or the lack of it) the same way that, say, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld did. I mean, he of all people knows that he was the occupant of the Oval Office in no small part because of how the Bush administration handled the Iraq war. He's also a lawyer. His wife is a lawyer. They know the consequences of breaking laws (this is before the SCOTUS's infamous ruling, mind you, so he makes the assumption that even presidents can be prosecuted for malfeasance after leaving office). In the end, I think Obama's crime was wanting to believe the people he hired and had trusted to senior positions in his White House. He trusted them, and in a way, I think they betrayed his trust.
 
For decades the Republicans hated the Russians
. With a capital H
. Now all of a sudden, the leader of the Republican party is pissing off all of our allies.. All of them, but kissing Putin's ass.. Think Trumpsters Think.. I know it's hard, but THINK,!
 
T25 said:
Amazing.
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Not really. It isn't that hard to conduct yourself with integrity, in spite of the poor example the Trump administration is setting.
 
From the Threads this OP keeps posting and from his avatar can we guess he doesn't like Obama.

Raise your hand folks if you care if the OP doesn't like Obama.

Anyone?
 
T25 said:
How about it?
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I don’t know and don’t care. That is ancient history. Only avid, MAGA Trumpers care about the Russia Hoax. It’s the Epstein files that have everyone’s attention these days. You need to stop living in the past.
 
Yes.
 
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multivita-man said:
you think he didn't, what's the evidence?
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There's a plethora of evidence. You know what's great? Obama's presidential immunity also means that he can be compelled to testify and if he perjures himself he can go to prison, where he belongs.
 
T25 said:
There's a plethora of evidence.
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What, Gabbard made some shit up to distract people from the Epstein list, and that's "evidence"?
 
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