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Dhs terrorism

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If you haven't seen this clip, it is a former DHS employee who did her job well and by the book and... was labeled a terrorist by the DHS. They landed a Blackhawk helicopter on her front lawn during a commando-style raid of her home and refused to give her sick father medical treatment, telling the ambulance to leave. Her father died. Her neighbor was found dead in his home 1 week after submitting a videotape he had filmed of the raid. A co-worker also dies just before going to testify that the DHS lied when they said they got information from her, etc.

The DHS says people who are patriots are terrorists. When you see the clip, it will be clear to you what the DHS is really about. They are a major threat to our sovereignty. I can't believe our dollars support this crap. It doesn't worry anybody that they are saying patriots are terrorists? Nobody is concerned about the acts of terror they themselves inflict upon innocent americans? The video link is not an isolated incident. There are countless similar cases. Why haven't they been shut down??



The Terror Within: Former DHS Officer, Julia Davis Speaks Out! - YouTube
 
As soon as I saw the video was from Prison Planet/Info Wars there was no reason to watch further.
 
Excon said:
As soon as I saw the video was from Prison Planet/Info Wars there was no reason to watch further.
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My apologies. I'm assuming you think there's something wrong with PrisonPlanet/InfoWars so here's a link to the exact same story by a highly esteemed and reputable news agency that specializes in national security stories that are not covered by the mainstream media networks.

Retribution at Homeland Security « DC BureauDC Bureau


Here is an excerpt from their mission statement. I hope you find it adequate.

About PEC:
The Public Education Center (PEC) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan 501(c)(3) charitable organization staffed by award-winning investigative reporters whose mission is to investigate previously overlooked news stories about significant issues—chief among them the environment and national security—and brings them to the attention of national and international audiences. Our goal is great journalism that produces definitive stories that result in public awareness through all media platforms.
 
Excon said:
As soon as I saw the video was from Prison Planet/Info Wars there was no reason to watch further.
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I'm guessing you prefer to watch Fox News and read government press releases?
 
Excon said:
:doh
WTF?
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I was responding to your point that you quickly and automatically dismissed the piece because it was on the Alex Jones site. I did not know if you were being sarcastic or serious, and assumed you were being serious.

All the Fox News Fans I know are allergic to Alex Jones. Did I read you wrong?
 
Anything Alex Jones says should be gone over with a microscope.
That why I made my comment.
He is a exaggerational and conspiratorial nut bag.

As for me.
I hardly ever watch tv on my own.
It only comes on when a friend comes over, and then it is usually the History channel or Military channel. The last time was so we could watch 21 Jump Street.
 

I think Alex may go a little overboard sometimes but he's just passionate about his work. All in all, I do not just take everything as fact no matter who or what it is - Alex Jones included. I must say that for a guy who does his best to get the truth out there, he goes largely unappreciated, and mostly because the truth is so unattractive. That said, I did post a link to the story that wasn't an Alex Jones site but only got comments about Alex Jones. The issue is that the DHS has demonstrated and continues to demonstrate that the ultimate target for them is us - and without us, they wouldn't exist. AS I said, They are an extremely dangerous group of thugs and terrorists and they need to just GO!! Why are they still here after that glaring display and the countless other similar cases? How is it that the supreme court doesn't just shut them down immediately upon finding that their interests are to harrass and imprison oathekeepers and patriots? WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??? Why am I the only one to be outraged? Why should americans feel threatened FOR EVEN A SPLIT SECOND BY OUR OWN FUKNG GOVERNMENT THAT WE PAY FOR??
 

Anything anybody says should be questioned, IMO.

Yes, Alex is certainly bombastic, rather like Limbaugh. But that does not make him wrong necessarily.

Better than many, he is aware of the constant deception practiced by the federal government. Most in the media do not question government statements, but Alex does.
 
Henry David said:
Yes, Alex is certainly bombastic,.
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I didn't say anything about being bombastic.
I clearly said; "He is a exaggerational and conspiratorial nut bag."

I believe there is a difference.
 
Excon said:
I didn't say anything about being bombastic.
I clearly said; "He is a exaggerational and conspiratorial nut bag."

I believe there is a difference.
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Yes, of course there is.

But if we use dictionary definitions, we're all a bit conspiratorial, aren't we?

IMO, humans conspire more often than they have sexual relations, but maybe I'm wrong. Those at the controls of the government might conspire more than average humans. Lord knows they have alot more to hide.
 
Excon said:
I didn't say anything about being bombastic.
I clearly said; "He is a exaggerational and conspiratorial nut bag."

I believe there is a difference.
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If the military didn't go door to door illegally confisgating all weapons in New Orleans after Katrina happened, I would have had to say Alex is a nutbag. But since they did do that, I'll have to just accept the fact that there are alot more people who choose to be ignorant (maybe out of cowardice?), than there are people who are not so easily fooled.
 
:doh
A broken clock is right twice a day and wrong at all other times. So what?
 
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I'll give you a small tidbit.....a freebee

When the Feds go after you it is not for some Mickey Mouse BS. They have a damn good case against you that far exceeds what is in that *concocted horse***** YouTube video. There is more to this story. I'll bet one imported beer and a small bag of pretzels to any of you.
 

Sorry I can't provide a link, but in 1998, November and December, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette published a series by Bill Moushey that contradicts your contention above. Entitled "Win At All Costs", it was an expose about government misconduct in the name of expedient justice.

It shows how the federal prosecutors play dirty pool in the drug war.
 
Henry David said:
Most in the media do not question government statements...
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It's not so much that they don't question it, it's that if they DO question it, they're fired. They have to report what they are told to report, whether it be true and accurate, or false and contrived. Having monopolized the media, believe it or not, is what makes it all possible. If the average American wasn't so ignorant and gullible.... if they just perked up enough to really examine what they are being fed, the gov would not be able to pull this off. People just can't comprehend the true nature of mainstream media. All Americans need to seriously just shut them out completely, and find a media source that is independent.
 

An outstanding post. It's sad but true.

While we are gullible as hell, it's also true that we have been manipulated somehow to be this way. Probably genetic.
 

I like ales, reds, and hefs - you can keep the pretzels. There's a lot more to the story. Dig around and find out more about homeland "security". It's amazing we pay them to exist!
 
Henry David said:
An outstanding post. It's sad but true.

While we are gullible as hell, it's also true that we have been manipulated somehow to be this way. Probably genetic.
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An outstanding point to consider... of course I would say you're a conspiratorial nut bag, but fluoride is deliberately added to the water supply, isn't it. You can avoid drinking it but you still have to shower.
 
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