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Dems Costing Virginian's Jobs...

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Beretta Passes on Building Factory in VA over McAuliffe Gun Control Stance

I had a good time when I lived there 20 or so years ago, thought I might return one day... Too bad the people turned stupid...
 
I live in Virginia, McAuliffe made no campaign promises to increase gun control. McAuliffe is a gun owner himself. He tried to stay away from guns because the rest of his campaign was turning off moderate conservatives enough as it was (understandably so). I think it's stupid for the plant not to be build, in order for gun laws to be enacted it would need to pass through a heavily conservative general assembly. Seems like just another attack on the dems to me.
 
I'm sure there were other financial / economic reasons that helped them make a decision. You have to realize also that since the Washington boom, most live across the river in VA - therefore the supidity is spilling over from the D.C. border.

All things considered equal, McAwful as Gov. is more than enough of a reason to scratch them off the list, GC spots or not..
 
I'm sure there were other financial / economic reasons that helped them make a decision. You have to realize also that since the Washington boom, most live across the river in VA - therefore the supidity is spilling over from the D.C. border.

It's not stupidity and it can be prevented.

What is really stupid is not preventing it or knowing how to.
 
It's not stupidity and it can be prevented.

What is really stupid is not preventing it or knowing how to.

In modern times, the low information voter and a media which fails at it's basic job of keeping politicians honest shows it cannot be prevented. Gerrymandering districts and no term limits seal the deal. Sure some people know how - but there's a huge difference between knowing and executing.
 

Always the excuses.

It is not the media's job to educate the public. The primary function of the media is to report. All have to make money by pandering to public demand and what sells. These are obvious and hardly should need to be mentioned. There really is no excuse for proposing something that is counter to that.

Quite obviously telling people about gun control does not sell, It indicates public resistance to such ideas.

Now if we examine those who have the most to lose by not educating the public what do we get? Do those who have the most to lose even attempt to educate the public or do they instead sell, promote and accept that what they supposedly oppose is correct and acceptable?

Can that be changed, Yes.
 
Always the excuses.

It is not the media's job to educate the public.
No that's the public school systems job, which it fails miserably doing, using our tax money.

The primary function of the media is to report.
Report what?

All have to make money by pandering to public demand and what sells.
Reporting is supposed to be of facts - the pandering is for opinion shows and round table discussions.

These are obvious and hardly should need to be mentioned.
You'd think that facts weigh more on the average American citizen than opinions - however that's not the case. That and the average American doesn't follow politics, they're not wonks like us on this forum. Therefore, the well placed bumper sticker slogan that resonates with them and a 15 minutes they discuss the issue is usually enough to encourage their vote.

There really is no excuse for proposing something that is counter to that.
You'd be surprised how many people don't know the difference between fact and opinion.

Quite obviously telling people about gun control does not sell, It indicates public resistance to such ideas.
Certain issues are not just social but cultural. Others gain favor over decades such as social security and since people are invested in it they do not want it to change.

Now if we examine those who have the most to lose by not educating the public what do we get?
In general, much of the urban minority population and the politicians who pander to them.
Do those who have the most to lose even attempt to educate the public or do they instead sell, promote and accept that what they supposedly oppose is correct and acceptable?

Can that be changed, Yes.

Anything can be changed but what is the likelihood? For example, most poor urban minorities are poorly educated - they have been for decades, why? Is it because there really is no money or is it because poorly educated minorities primarily vote one way and are more likely to take part in public assistance programs which predominantly are pushed by one prominent political group? If those urban centers were better educated, afforded better opportunities they may not cling to the same political party - therefore why take the chance?
 
I'm interested in learning smithing, maybe they'd find Louisiana a good fit.

Or Georgia. Virginia has been drifting to becoming morel like Maryland than a southern state for the last decade or two. I don't blame Beretta.
 
I'd say build it in KY. Gun friendly state that needs industry.
Sure, but either way it should be a gun friendly state. There is no reason to give industry to a state that does not respect your product.
 
Or Georgia. Virginia has been drifting to becoming morel like Maryland than a southern state for the last decade or two. I don't blame Beretta.
As long as it's a state that has respect for the second amendment I'm good, I'd prefer that they be as respectful to their citizens regarding the constitution as possible overall, but it makes no sense to give commerce to a state that disrespects your product I guess is my overall concern.
 
Or Georgia. Virginia has been drifting to becoming morel like Maryland than a southern state for the last decade or two. I don't blame Beretta.

Maryland is a southern state technically speaking (given the Mason Dixon Line)

And I really hate living here, my last job was in VA and wanted to move and could get my carry permit but not after that last election.
 

Not true, from the campaign site:

"As Governor, Terry will support mainstream and majority supported gun control measures like universal background checks, limiting the size of magazines, and a return to the 1-gun-per-month rule. These measures respect Virginians’ right to bear arms while reducing gun violence."

http://terrymcauliffe.com/investing-in-virginias-urban-centers/
 
PA is expected to have a new governor--there are no assurances--especially against gun paranoia
I don't know that, so that offers me no assurance. Am looking for work in PA instead, **** Virginia and Maryland.
 
Maryland is a southern state technically speaking (given the Mason Dixon Line)

And I really hate living here, my last job was in VA and wanted to move and could get my carry permit but not after that last election.
I still don't understand what happened in that state.
 
PA is expected to have a new governor--there are no assurances--especially against gun paranoia

What is "gun paranoia"?

Remember that my state (Maryland) recently passed gun control laws that would have prevented me from owning much of what I own had I not bought my lower receiver for example before the law went into effect? There is nothing I'm concerned about that isn't happening.
 
What is "gun paranoia"?
gun ranters on Debate Politics..

Remember that my state (Maryland) recently passed gun control laws that would have prevented me from owning much of what I own had I not bought my lower receiver for example before the law went into effect?
then you have no problems..
There is nothing I'm concerned about that isn't happening.
so you say
 
maybe it was all those libertarians who couldn't stand the crooked cooch and went with sarvis--should we just add those to the cooch column ?
IMO it was huge NOVA voter turn out, which is more liberal.
 
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gun ranters on Debate Politics..

Like who? Saying what? Not all rants are paranoid.

then you have no problems..

I still live in Maryland, my 2nd amendment right still ends at my front door. I cannot bear a handgun in this "may issue" state and if I carried a long gun (open carry of them is legal) i'd be stopped before I reached the corner.

so you say

I say it because the passage of Maryland's "Firearm Safety Act" is a matter of historical record... What makes you so skeptical of verifiable facts? Does google not work where you live?

maybe it was all those libertarians who couldn't stand the crooked cooch and went with sarvis--should we just add those to the cooch colum ?

Crooked cooch? I don't... that isn't... what? Are you referring to Cuccinelli (sp?) Do you realize how close the race was? Do you just say things or was your brain mouth filter removed?
 
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