Democrats trying to save the economy from Republican sabotage

[Craig234]

Democrats are pushing for a 'discharge resolution' for a clean increase of the debt ceiling. They need five Republicans to agree to the clean increase, instead of the bill calling for trillions in cuts Republicans passed. Republicans are threatening to recklessly blow up the economy hoping Democrats get the blame.

House Dems Unveil Hail Mary Plan to Defuse GOP's Debt Ceiling 'Ticking Time Bomb' | Common Dreams

"House Democrats are taking action to bring a clean bill raising the debt ceiling to the floor and end this game of high-stakes political chicken," said Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett.

www.commondreams.org

 

[Cardinal]

I'm afraid this may be an example of an unstoppable force meeting an unmovable object.

Democrats can't give in to blackmail, and Republicans are now so radicalized that raising the debt ceiling without extracting ridiculous concessions isn't an option.

Buckle in.

 

[Jessie C]

Democrats are pushing for a 'discharge resolution' for a clean increase of the debt ceiling. They need five Republicans to agree to the clean increase, instead of the bill calling for trillions in cuts Republicans passed. Republicans are threatening to recklessly blow up the economy hoping Democrats get the blame.

House Dems Unveil Hail Mary Plan to Defuse GOP's Debt Ceiling 'Ticking Time Bomb' | Common Dreams

"House Democrats are taking action to bring a clean bill raising the debt ceiling to the floor and end this game of high-stakes political chicken," said Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett.

www.commondreams.org

Take a deep breath. It will be OK.

 

[Rawley]

Democrats are pushing for a 'discharge resolution' for a clean increase of the debt ceiling. They need five Republicans to agree to the clean increase, instead of the bill calling for trillions in cuts Republicans passed. Republicans are threatening to recklessly blow up the economy hoping Democrats get the blame.

House Dems Unveil Hail Mary Plan to Defuse GOP's Debt Ceiling 'Ticking Time Bomb' | Common Dreams

"House Democrats are taking action to bring a clean bill raising the debt ceiling to the floor and end this game of high-stakes political chicken," said Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett.

www.commondreams.org

Returning spending to levels from four months ago will not "blow up the economy" Do you ever even think about the bullshit they tell you regurgitate?

 

[Cardinal]

Returning spending to levels from four months ago will not "blow up the economy" Do you ever even think about the bullshit they tell you regurgitate?

Republicans will get saddled with the blame for this standoff because they're demanding things the public isn't behind. That's why Republicans always lose on the debt ceiling fight.

"Let us set this box of golden retriever puppies on fire OR WE'LL REFUSE TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING."

Yeah, that's gonna go over great with the public.

 

[lemmiwinx]

Republicans calling for $Trillions in spending cuts? How dare they try to balance the federal budget!

 

[Jessie C]

Republicans will get saddled with the blame for this standoff because they're demanding things the public isn't behind. That's why Republicans always lose on the debt ceiling fight.

"Let us set this box of golden retriever puppies on fire OR WE'LL REFUSE TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING."

Yeah, that's gonna go over great with the public.

God, you make it sound so simple. Maybe that's because it is.

 

[Cardinal]

God, you make it sound so simple. Maybe that's because it is.

That's because it's simple. National support for various issues isn't on Republicans' minds, but every standoff between the House and the Executive is a national spectacle, and therefore what the Republican is attempting to extort is a national issue, which they will always lose seeing as there's next to nothing that the majority of the people actually support them on.

Whether it's a Democratic President and a Republican House, or a Republican President and a Democratic House, the Republicans lose every time.

 

[dmpi]

Funny thing that Democratic spending.... When you add it, it hardly does anything... but when you take it away, it's the end of the world.

 

[IQ57]

The Democrats are the ones sabotaging the country.

They control the lying narrative.

 

[JMB1911A1]

All Republicans are trying to do is return the budget to 2022 levels. Democrats are trying to make the extra COVID spending a permanent expenditure. We can not afford to keep spending like a drunken sailor in a foreign port.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Will this pass?

Or is it political theater that serves no purpose other than feeding their base?

 

[Craig234]

Take a deep breath. It will be OK.

What?

 

[Craig234]

Funny thing that Democratic spending.... When you add it, it hardly does anything... but when you take it away, it's the end of the world.

No, it's not a funny thing. And it does plenty.

 

[Bullseye]

Democrats are pushing for a 'discharge resolution' for a clean increase of the debt ceiling. They need five Republicans to agree to the clean increase, instead of the bill calling for trillions in cuts Republicans passed. Republicans are threatening to recklessly blow up the economy hoping Democrats get the blame.

House Dems Unveil Hail Mary Plan to Defuse GOP's Debt Ceiling 'Ticking Time Bomb' | Common Dreams

"House Democrats are taking action to bring a clean bill raising the debt ceiling to the floor and end this game of high-stakes political chicken," said Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett.

www.commondreams.org

Sounds like that old Vietnam mantra: "in order to save the village (economy) we had to destroy it".

 

[Integrityrespec]

Democrats are pushing for a 'discharge resolution' for a clean increase of the debt ceiling. They need five Republicans to agree to the clean increase, instead of the bill calling for trillions in cuts Republicans passed. Republicans are threatening to recklessly blow up the economy hoping Democrats get the blame.

House Dems Unveil Hail Mary Plan to Defuse GOP's Debt Ceiling 'Ticking Time Bomb' | Common Dreams

"House Democrats are taking action to bring a clean bill raising the debt ceiling to the floor and end this game of high-stakes political chicken," said Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett.

www.commondreams.org

Unfortunately the system works in such a way that Mr. Biden is going to have to deal with the House Speaker. They don't have to pass his ridiculous spending, Trillions of new spending under Joe. Biden's BS is so thick, he's promised he could work with the other side, he could breing the nation together, and yet it's all more F'd now than it ever was under Trump. As bad as the left says Trump was, they will defend the doddering old fool Biden who has made a mess of the nation, both national and international affairs.

 

[Craig234]

All Republicans are trying to do is return the budget to 2022 levels. Democrats are trying to make the extra COVID spending a permanent expenditure. We can not afford to keep spending like a drunken sailor in a foreign port.

Well, that's false. And we have a budget negotiation process for that. Maybe Democrats should have used it to extort from Republicans under trump, when they raised it three times.

 

[Allan]

Take a deep breath. It will be OK.

There will be some compromise coming. Some cuts in exchange for raising the ceiling. At least that's how adults would handle this.

 

[Metric Mouse]

There will be some compromise coming. Some cuts in exchange for raising the ceiling. At least that's how adults would handle this.

Biden has repeatedly said he won't compromise on this issue.

Are you suggesting that he lied, and will fold to Republican demands?

 

[Craig234]

There will be some compromise coming. Some cuts in exchange for raising the ceiling. At least that's how adults would handle this.

No, it's not. Adults handle it by not allowing the debt ceiling to be used to extort and telling Republicans raise it, or you own the crash.

 

[ataraxia]

Republicans calling for $Trillions in spending cuts? How dare they try to balance the federal budget!

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You gotta admit they choose suspicious times to get all fiscally responsible. Where was all this concern and responsibility when they raised the debt limit 3 times under Trump, increasing the deficit $7.5 trillion, without even raising an eyebrow? I don't even remembering hearing about it. NOW all of a sudden they are all responsible?

Come on, be serious. This is not about fiscal responsibility.

 

[Cardinal]

There will be some compromise coming. Some cuts in exchange for raising the ceiling. At least that's how adults would handle this.

That's actually not how the adults would handle it because that would be giving in to blackmail. Or extortion. I think I may need to look into the exact difference between the two.

What is the difference between extortion and blackmail?

The biggest difference between extortion and blackmail is that blackmail requires a threat. Extortion is a theft crime involving coercion to obtain money, property, or services from a victim. Like extortion, blackmail is classified as a theft crime, but it involves making a threat and is usually...

www.freeadvice.com

 

[JRTurner]

Republicans are attempting to set the stage for 2024 elections by creating the worst situation they can so they can blame it on Biden.

There's no other reason why they would choose the cuts they want to make so they can roll out campaigns that Biden took their Medicare and Snap benefits away and/or crashed the economy because he refused to compromise. They put him in a corner and the only thing he can do is say no.

If they were serious, they'd be asking for more border security or for federal legislation of background checks--something their own voters would sing their praises for.

So it is just theater, but Biden is too savvy for that and I think McCarthy is out of his league. You can't put MTG on your team and expect to win anything but stupid prizes.

 

[multivita-man]

I'm afraid this may be an example of an unstoppable force meeting an unmovable object.

Democrats can't give in to blackmail, and Republicans are now so radicalized that raising the debt ceiling without extracting ridiculous concessions isn't an option.

Buckle in.

I think the majority of Republicans would be willing to cut a deal to stave off insanity. The problem is, that might not be enough. McCarthy made a little deal with the devil to become the nominal Speaker back in January, which we all should have bookmarked, as this could come back to the fore in the coming weeks.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Well, that's false. And we have a budget negotiation process for that. Maybe Democrats should have used it to extort from Republicans under trump, when they raised it three times.

Wrong. The bill capped discretionary spending to the FY2022 level.

House will vote soon to cap federal spending at 2022 level, raise debt limit for one year: McCarthy

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy was at the New York Stock Exchange on Monday morning to discuss the status of debt limit talks with the country's business leaders

www.foxnews.com

What's in the US House Republicans' debt-ceiling spending-cut bill?

The Republican-led U.S. House of Representatives has passed a bill that pairs $4.8 trillion of spending cuts with an increase in the federal government's $31.4 trillion debt ceiling. It has no chance of passing the Democratic-led Senate, but is meant to pressure Democratic President Joe Biden...

www.reuters.com

The bill would cut a wide swath of government spending to last year's levels,…

What's in the GOP bill to lift debt limit, cut spending

House Republicans are pushing their top priorities in a bill to raise the debt limit

abcnews.go.com

The bill would set federal discretionary spending at $1.47 trillion during the next fiscal year and allow it to increase only 1% annually from there, far below the rate of inflation in most years.

The cap on spending is the big-ticket item in the bill, accounting for about two-thirds of the $4.8 trillion in deficit reduction that the Congressional Budget Office says would occur over 10 years if the bill is enacted.

Discretionary spending includes things like weapons programs, servicemember pay, grants for schools that serve large shares of low-income students, rental assistance to house millions of poor and disabled, and money to fund research on cancer and other life-threatening diseases. It's the spending that Congress approves through appropriations bills.

The House GOP bill doesn't affect spending on Social Security and Medicare. Such spending, referred to as mandatory, accounts for about two-thirds of all federal spending.

Democrats are lying about the bill saying that Republicans want to cut Medicare and Social Security. That is not being cut.