Democrats need to hit the Repugs and Trump hard with one message.

[Lfl]

If Trump wins he will end Social Security and Medicare,. and he said so.

That's is, just attack, no defense, no explanation because he said so and it's on tape.

 

[Captain Adverse]

If Trump wins he will end Social Security and Medicare,. and he said so.

That's is, just attack, no defense, no explanation because he said so and it's on tape.

Okay, please provide a citation/link to this alleged "tape."

That way we can "hear it" for ourselves.

 

[Lfl]

Okay, please provide a citation/link to this alleged "tape."

That way we can "hear it" for ourselves.

Trump Just Admitted on Live Television He Will 'Terminate' Social Security and Medicare If Reelected in November | Common Dreams News

he said if he's elected he's going to make the payroll cuts permanent, which ends funding to SS and Medicare.

 

[Fishking]

If Trump wins he will end Social Security and Medicare,. and he said so.

That's is, just attack, no defense, no explanation because he said so and it's on tape.

^Dude...lol. That's all the Dems have been doing this whole time. That's all they have.

 

[Lfl]

^Dude...lol. That's all the Dems have been doing this whole time. That's all they have.

You live in opposite world where you are being lied to, this is what FoKKKs News does all day, lie to people and tell them that they know the lies are true.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Trump Just Admitted on Live Television He Will 'Terminate' Social Security and Medicare If Reelected in November | Common Dreams News

he said if he's elected he's going to make the payroll cuts permanent, which ends funding to SS and Medicare.

I see.

So he never actually said he was "ending Social Security and Medicare."

What he said was that he intended to make the payroll cuts he ordered for THIS YEAR permanent.

Your side is (as usual) intentionally misinterpreting this as eliminating all future payroll tax deductions permanently, which would in effect defund both programs.

However, what he factually said was that he intends to make it so the payroll cuts occurring THIS YEAR (over the next four months) permanent so we don't have to pay those cuts back.

He is not ending Social Security and Medicare. :no:

Just more MSM misinformation/disinformation efforts, otherwise known as "FAKE NEWS!" :coffeepap:

 

[Greenbeard]

Defunding Social Security is an interesting re-election strategy.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

Your side is (as usual) intentionally misinterpreting this

Shh...it's literally all they have now that they've nominated a senile old racist rich white guy (who ironically is exactly the type of person they hate the most).

 

[Fishking]

You live in opposite world where you are being lied to, this is what FoKKKs News does all day, lie to people and tell them that they know the lies are true.

Ah...I see what I'm dealing with here.

 

[Lfl]

However, what he factually said was that he intends to make it so the payroll cuts occurring THIS YEAR (over the next four months) permanent so we don't have to pay those cuts back.

He NEVER said that and you are accusing me of what you are doing,. Taking the words that he said make the tax cuts permanent and lying and spinning it.

 

[Fishking]

I see.

So he never actually said he was "ending Social Security and Medicare."

What he said was that he intended to make the payroll cuts he ordered for THIS YEAR permanent.

Your side is (as usual) intentionally misinterpreting this as eliminating all future payroll tax deductions permanently, which would in effect defund both programs.

However, what he factually said was that he intends to make it so the payroll cuts occurring THIS YEAR (over the next four months) permanent so we don't have to pay those cuts back.

He is not ending Social Security and Medicare. :no:

Just more MSM misinformation/disinformation efforts, otherwise known as "FAKE NEWS!" :coffeepap:

Lol...it's not even MSM...it's some weird site I've never heard of.

 

[Greenbeard]

He NEVER said that and you are accusing me of what you are doing,. Taking the words that he said make the tax cuts permanent and lying and spinning it.

Trump Whisperers are adept at telling you why the words coming out of Trump’s mouth don’t mean what they mean.

 

[Fishking]

Shh...it's literally all they have now that they've nominated a senile old racist rich white guy (who ironically is exactly the type of person they hate the most).

You forgot sexual assaulter and child molester.

 

[Lfl]

Ah...I see what I'm dealing with here.

I see what we are dealing with as far as you go, a person who posts a childish video and refuses to participate in the thread because you have no argument.

 

[Captain Adverse]

He NEVER said that and you are accusing me of what you are doing,. Taking the words that he said make the tax cuts permanent and lying and spinning it.

Just look at your own sources VIDEO citation.

He never said what you alleged and your biased source alleged.

(Sometimes there is just no getting through to some people) :coffeepap:

 

[Lfl]

You forgot sexual assaulter and child molester.

He did and he forgot to say his mother was not an American born citizen, nor were his first and third wife, also immigrants., and forgot to say he blamed America for Russia paying to have American soldiers killed. And you forgot to say he paid off porn stars.

 

[HennyBogan]

Ah...I see what I'm dealing with here.

Buckle up, there are a ****load of them here.

 

[Lfl]

Lol...it's not even MSM...it's some weird site I've never heard of.

When you have no argument you attack the site, knowing full well it has a real video of Trump saying that he will permanently cut payroll taxes that fund SS and Medicare and you can find it at thousands of other sites.

 

[HIP56948]

Not sure if what he said yesterday is something that he can actually make happen. Isn't congress solely responsible for allocations (of money) such as that?
Hey..just wondering.

 

[Craig234]

What he said was that he intended to make the payroll cuts he ordered for THIS YEAR permanent.

Uh, when he says make the cuts permanent, it means continue not collecting the tax permanently. What do you think happens when a program has its funding removed? It's like saying "I didn't say I'm going to kill you. I said I'm going to pull this trigger. Sure, it will cause a bullet to hit your head. But I didn't say I'm going to kill you, just that I'm pulling this trigger."

 

[Fishking]

When you have no argument you attack the site, knowing full well it has a real video of Trump saying that he will permanently cut payroll taxes that fund SS and Medicare and you can find it at thousands of other sites.

The poster I responded to already covered the content, so you can stop with that defense. I only highlighted to him that it wasn't an MSM, like he said.

 

[Craig234]

Not sure if what he said yesterday is something that he can actually make happen. Isn't congress solely responsible for allocations (of money) such as that?
Hey..just wondering.

Yes, Congress sets that policy.

What trump is doing is pushing them to do it.

 

[Lfl]

Not sure if what he said yesterday is something that he can actually make happen. Isn't congress solely responsible for allocations (of money) such as that?
Hey..just wondering.

Doesn't matter, just saying it is bad enough and those are his intentions to make the rich richer and kill poor people and old people.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

I see.

So he never actually said he was "ending Social Security and Medicare."

What he said was that he intended to make the payroll cuts he ordered for THIS YEAR permanent.

Your side is (as usual) intentionally misinterpreting this as eliminating all future payroll tax deductions permanently, which would in effect defund both programs.

However, what he factually said was that he intends to make it so the payroll cuts occurring THIS YEAR (over the next four months) permanent so we don't have to pay those cuts back.

He is not ending Social Security and Medicare. :no:

Just more MSM misinformation/disinformation efforts, otherwise known as "FAKE NEWS!" :coffeepap:

Newp, not fake news. Yet again you prove you have no idea what you're blathering about and will resort to naked intellectual dishonesty to prop up your god.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/08/08/trump-payroll-tax-cut/

 

[mike2810]

I see.

So he never actually said he was "ending Social Security and Medicare."

What he said was that he intended to make the payroll cuts he ordered for THIS YEAR permanent.

Your side is (as usual) intentionally misinterpreting this as eliminating all future payroll tax deductions permanently, which would in effect defund both programs.

However, what he factually said was that he intends to make it so the payroll cuts occurring THIS YEAR (over the next four months) permanent so we don't have to pay those cuts back.

He is not ending Social Security and Medicare. :no:

Just more MSM misinformation/disinformation efforts, otherwise known as "FAKE NEWS!" :coffeepap:

With Trump's EO no revenue is being collected for SS yet payments are going to continue going out. I don't see how SS can last if at some point revenue doesn't start flowing in. I'm I missing something?

I have no dog in this fight. I do not draw SS. However i do have relatives who do.