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Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting [W:977, 1014]

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[FONT=&quot]Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation. (RELATED: Massacre At Mandalay: Las Vegas Gunman Kills At Least 50 At Country Music Concert [VIDEO])[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy [/FONT]issued a statement [FONT=&quot]Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.[/FONT]
Democrats Demand Gun Control After Vegas | The Daily Caller

That didn't take long.
 
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as I noted, she's gleeful. the "greater good" collectivists often see the deaths of innocents as a benefit when you can use their deaths to advance the malignancy of the gun ban collectivist movement. Until we get more information, calls for any "remedies" is stupid

remember all those bannerrhoid politicians who screamed for waiting periods and background checks after SandyHook even though the killer murdered his own mother to get guns she had registered, undergone a background check and waited to buy? the fact is-gun banners don't care about the facts of a case, if there are dead innocents, that's good enough for some of them to start howling for erosion of our freedoms even though such schemes invariably wouldn't have stopped the killing
 
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We have this discussion every time a mass shooting happens.

The one conclusion that we always get to, there was really nothing that could have been done to prevent this from happening.
 
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Sandy hook marked the end of the gun control debate. If a bunch of kids getting shot wasn't enough to enact change then nothing will be.
 
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Interesting that he didn’t proffer the legislation he’d like to see. I’ve been thinking about this guy and his fully automatic weapon. Since I seriously doubt he obtained the proper license, he either bought it illegally or modified his firearm(s).

I know the purists won’t like it, but I advocate extremely tough first-time mandatory sentencing for anyone either owning a retrofit or illegally buying a fully automatic anything. And for sellers? Throw them in jail and throw away the key. Even juveniles. I would also support legislation that required new manufactures to incorporate design technology that would make retrofitting to automatic fire impossible.

Can you imagine? Fifty-plus dead. Four hundred plus wounded.
 
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Sandy hook marked the end of the gun control debate. If a bunch of kids getting shot wasn't enough to enact change then nothing will be.

The debate was never about gun control it was about gun banning for your side, which you are correct, ain't happening.
 
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Disgusting pushing their political agenda so soon. People are still fighting for their lives in the hospital!
 
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as I noted, she's gleeful. the "greater good" collectivists often see the deaths of innocents as a benefit when you can use their deaths to advance the malignancy of the gun ban collectivist movement. Until we get more information, calls for any "remedies" is stupid

remember all those bannerrhoid politicians who screamed for waiting periods and background checks after SandyHook even though the killer murdered his own mother to get guns she had registered, undergone a background check and waited to buy? the fact is-gun banners don't care about the facts of a case, if there are dead innocents, that's good enough for some of them to start howling for erosion of our freedoms even though such schemes invariably wouldn't have stopped the killing

Ugh **** you and your take on people who want to ban guns. It is not some grand conspiracy to inconvenience you. You are not that important. They do it because they care about people's lives, like the 50 in Vegas today. Yes, many people are misguided about the ways that we could actually reduce deaths, you yourself opened my eyes to reasons why registrations and things are unlikely to be helpful, but your complete misrepresentation of the motivations of gun control people is probably the most dishonest debate tactic this site has seen.
 
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The debate was never about gun control it was about gun banning for your side, which you are correct, ain't happening.

A full gun ban is the only real solution to the gun issue. But not only is it politically untenable, there are other geographical and social realities that make it less of an effective solution here than in other countries around the world where it works.
 
Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

We have this discussion every time a mass shooting happens.

The one conclusion that we always get to, there was really nothing that could have been done to prevent this from happening.

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
LAS VEGAS—In the hours following a violent rampage in Las Vegas in which a lone attacker killed more than 50 individuals and seriously injured 400 others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Monday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Iowa resident Kyle Rimmels, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep these individuals from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
?No Way To Prevent This,? Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens - The Onion - America's Finest News Source
 
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A full gun ban is the only real solution to the gun issue. But not only is it politically untenable, there are other geographical and social realities that make it less of an effective solution here than in other countries around the world where it works.

All a gun ban would do is disarm the law abiding. I don't have any desire to be a defenseless victim.
 
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You.. just seriously quoted the Onion?

For irony. You seem to miss the point. This kind of thing happens exponentially more here than it does anywhere else, and every time its the same bull**** response about "there is no way this could have been prevented". We have 4 to 5 times (or more) the murder rate here than you will find in any of our peer developed nations. Even nations like France which are targets of Islamic terrorism have a 1/4 of our murder rate.
 
Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

Interesting that he didn’t proffer the legislation he’d like to see. I’ve been thinking about this guy and his fully automatic weapon. Since I seriously doubt he obtained the proper license, he either bought it illegally or modified his firearm(s).

I know the purists won’t like it, but I advocate extremely tough first-time mandatory sentencing for anyone either owning a retrofit or illegally buying a fully automatic anything. And for sellers? Throw them in jail and throw away the key. Even juveniles. I would also support legislation that required new manufactures to incorporate design technology that would make retrofitting to automatic fire impossible.

Can you imagine? Fifty-plus dead. Four hundred plus wounded.

Ok I get where your coming from,but have you ever shot an automatic weapon?they are fun.
I could go to Wal-Mart and buy what I needed to take far more lives than that psycho did last night. Gun are just tools how you use them is already covered by laws.
 
Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

For irony. You seem to miss the point. This kind of thing happens exponentially more here than it does anywhere else, and every time its the same bull**** response about "there is no way this could have been prevented"

We could ban the sale of guns in total and not stop this kind of thing from happening. The genie has left the building.
 
Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

For irony. You seem to miss the point. This kind of thing happens exponentially more here than it does anywhere else, and every time its the same bull**** response about "there is no way this could have been prevented". We have 4 to 5 times (or more) the murder rate here than you will find in any of our peer developed nations. Even nations like France which are targets of Islamic terrorism have a 1/4 of our murder rate.

Yawn. How many legally owned guns are used to commit crimes?
The answer is very few.
So, people who shouldn't have guns are committing acts that are illegal while illegally in possession of weapons. Your answer is to "Ban" all guns, something that would take a Constitutional Convention to even begin to start...
 
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Ok I get where your coming from,but have you ever shot an automatic weapon?they are fun.
I could go to Wal-Mart and buy what I needed to take far more lives than that psycho did last night. Gun are just tools how you use them is already covered by laws.

Are you arguing against stronger sentencing? Are you arguing that you should be able to retrofit a firearm to be automatic fire? Not sure what your point is.
 
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Yawn. How many legally owned guns are used to commit crimes?
The answer is very few.
So, people who shouldn't have guns are committing acts that are illegal while illegally in possession of weapons. Your answer is to "Ban" all guns, something that would take a Constitutional Convention to even begin to start...

No, my answer is not to ban all guns. I own several guns. To be honest, I don't know what the answer is. I just know I am sick of hearing people say "nothing could be done to prevent this".
 
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