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Democrats holding up Covid 19 relief bill.

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LOL! Funny to see complaints about Republicans not inviting Democrats to craft the bill. Because, we all know, the Dems never do stuff like that.
 
This isn't a joke. Democrats have been involved in negotiating this bill; that's why it's now a 2 Trillion dollar package. The article mentions several key requests from Democrats that were added during negotiations on Saturday. Now they're holding it up. I can't believe they are choosing now to let petty differences hold up serious help for Americans in this time of crisis.
 
tacomancer said:
Democrat concerns were not considered when crafting this bill, Mitch failed to do his job.
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Well, that is a lie. This vote was to clear the bill for a full vote after the bipartisan negotiations are completed, rather than finish negotiations then debate on the bill then vote to move it to a final vote, then have a final vote.

The Democrats see a few quarantined Republican senators and smell an opportunity for all kinds of not-COVID-19 related nonsense, because Democrat leadership is awful.
 
iguanaman said:
The partisanship was all Mitch's. He drafted the bill with zero input from Democrats. I agree we used to be better without Mitch. Hopefully the voters will dump him in Nov.
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While the bill was drafted by Republicans, it has been greatly changed and expanded with the input of Democrats. This information is in the article.

No comment on Mitch; that's up to his constituents.
 
tacomancer said:
Democrat concerns were not considered when crafting this bill, Mitch failed to do his job.
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While it's true that Republicans crafted the bill, it has been greatly expanded to address the concerns of Democrats, as mentioned in the article. After negotiating with Democrats, several key requests from Democrats are now included, hence the massive increase in spending that was added Saturday.
 
jmotivator said:
Well, that is a lie. This vote was to clear the bill for a full vote after the bipartisan negotiations are completed, rather than finish negotiations then debate on the bill then vote to move it to a final vote, then have a final vote.

The Democrats see a few quarantined Republican senators and smell an opportunity for all kinds of not-COVID-19 related nonsense, because Democrat leadership is awful.
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Pelosi is a craven lunatic.
 
This bill is full of faults and screw-ups, but Dems were consulted and their stuff added and they are holdng it up purely for political games, not to fix flaws
 
Keridan said:
This bill is full of faults and screw-ups, but Dems were consulted and their stuff added and they are holdng it up purely for political games, not to fix flaws
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There is no full bill. Stop spreading lies. The full bill is still in bipartisan negotiations. This vote was simply a procedural vote to make it possible to go from the final negotiated bill to the House floor vote. The effort is to fast track the bill and the Democrats are being complete ****s, as per usual.
 
Metric Mouse said:
While it's true that Republicans crafted the bill, it has been greatly expanded to address the concerns of Democrats, as mentioned in the article. After negotiating with Democrats, several key requests from Democrats are now included, hence the massive increase in spending that was added Saturday.
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admittedly, I checked last saturday
 
jmotivator said:
There is no full bill. Stop spreading lies. The full bill is still in bipartisan negotiations. This vote was simply a procedural vote to make it possible to go from the final negotiated bill to the House floor vote. The effort is to fast track the bill and the Democrats are being complete ****s, as per usual.
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Please reread my post. I said the bill is full of faults, not the full bill is
 
upsideguy said:
If McConnell wanted this to be bi-partisan, he would have invited Democrats to be involved in drafting the bill. Its a bit disingenuous to ask them to approve what the Republicans put forth.

GOP drafting stimulus package without deal with Democrats | TheHill

This failed upstream.
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The main concern is the lack of controls on who and why corporations get money as part of the stimulus. It's badly crafted , designed to give money to people who don't need it, rather than people who actually do.
 
Democrats care far less about the virus than beating Trump.

They hate how well this is being handled, and they cringe when thinking about money hitting the hands of American voters. Giving away money is their forte.

The longer this takes to pass, the bigger price Democrats pay. Not Trump.
 
Good for the Democrats. I'd tell the Republicans to stick the whole bill up their ass. If the shoe were on the other foot, I'd say the same thing. You don't write such an important bill with ZERO input from the other side of the aisle. That's just plain 'ol Chicken***t. You better believe the Republicans are trying the "Used Car lot salesman" crap.
 
Keridan said:
Please reread my post. I said the bill is full of faults, not the full bill is
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The full faulty bill, filled with faults, fell short of fulfilling Democrats' fantasies and faltered in obtaining a full vote.
 
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Metric Mouse said:
Typical partisan infighting. We used to be better.

Stimulus package: Key procedural vote fails after Democrats warn of 'serious issues' with bill - CNNPolitics
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The bill is little more than a slush fund for Trump and his corporate cronies...


"...President Trump already has said he wants the money to be used to rescue the cruise ship and hotel industries, making his preferences clear, but at a press conference on Sunday refused to say whether his own hotel properties would apply for the funding...

On Sunday, Trump declined to commit to preventing his own extensive properties from qualifying for the program. He complained that nobody had thanked him for not taking a salary as president and said he had given up substantial business opportunities to run for public office..."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/22/treasury-coronavirus-senate-corporate-loan/​
 
HIP56948 said:
Good for the Democrats. I'd tell the Republicans to stick the whole bill up their ass. If the shoe were on the other foot, I'd say the same thing. You don't write such an important bill with ZERO input from the other side of the aisle. That's just plain 'ol Chicken***t. You better believe the Republicans are trying the "Used Car lot salesman" crap.
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Did you read the article? Democrats and Republicans negotiated all weekend on the bill (Which was only drafted by Republicans) and many of the Democrats's concerns were addressed - this is why the bill is now $500 billion more expensive than the first draft. Negotiations continue, Republicans are just trying to speed up the process once the bill is completely negotiated. Democrats had their say, and now they're holding it up for no reason.
 
jmotivator said:
Well, that is a lie. This vote was to clear the bill for a full vote after the bipartisan negotiations are completed, rather than finish negotiations then debate on the bill then vote to move it to a final vote, then have a final vote.

The Democrats see a few quarantined Republican senators and smell an opportunity for all kinds of not-COVID-19 related nonsense, because Democrat leadership is awful.
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The one that smelled opportunity was Mitch. He put forth a bill with a $500 billion bailout of corporations with no restrictions and little for States and local Govt.s that have been bearing the brunt of preparations absent of Federal guidance or assistance. Bailing out corporations who have been buying back stock with their profits is not a top priority.

Mark Cuban: Bailed out companies should not be allowed to do buybacks
 
Keridan said:
Please reread my post. I said the bill is full of faults, not the full bill is
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And again, this wasn't a vote on the bill. :roll:

Pelosi and the Senate Democrats are awful.
 
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