Democrats Dump Moderates, Move Far Left

[LowDown]

The activist base of the Democratic party is lurching left fast enough that everyone should pay attention. Activists matter because their turnout in low-turnout primaries and caucuses almost propelled leftist Bernie Sanders to victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016. Last month, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez unseated New York congressman Joe Crowley, the No. 4 ranking House Democrat in a low-turnout primary. She benefited from organizing support from the Democratic Socialists of America. Leftists have also upset establishment Democrats in statewide primaries for governor in Colorado and Maryland.

The power of left-wing activists showed up in California this past Saturday, as 65 percent of the state Democratic party’s 330-member executive committee voted to spurn moderate Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein. Instead, they endorsed her left-wing opponent, Kevin de León, a state senator. De Leon won a stunning 65 percent of party activists, and Feinstein got just 7 percent.

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Feinstein is still the favorite to win in November. But it's telling that she doesn't have the support of the core of the Democratic Party in her state. How far is this shift to the left likely to go? How much of a factor will it be in November? Looking down the barrel of a loaded election is usually enough to make a party get more practical, but the intensity of the fringe this year seems greater, possibly more consequential. In any case, it will certainly be used to scare moderates and motivate the Republican base.

 

[rocket88]

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Feinstein is still the favorite to win in November. But it's telling that she doesn't have the support of the core of the Democratic Party in her state. How far is this shift to the left likely to go? How much of a factor will it be in November? Looking down the barrel of a loaded election is usually enough to make a party get more practical, but the intensity of the fringe this year seems greater, possibly more consequential. In any case, it will certainly be used to scare moderates and motivate the Republican base.

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Dropping the moderates worked for Republicans, so apparently it's a strategy that works.

 

[Oborosen]

Dropping the moderates worked for Republicans, so apparently it's a strategy that works.

Helped more in the fact that it made the party less crowded.
I think the democrats are going off the deep end on this one. Because even Bernie couldn't tell us the difference between democratic socialism and regular socialism. Which with that one right there "**** private property" not to mention "police & right to work". This can turn out to be highly troubling for us if this kind of movement gets steam.

I would rather the US not become another Venezuela.

 

[Oborosen]

I must admit, that poster sickens me more than just a little bit.

It basically says "we can come in and take your **** at gunpoint if we want" all over it.

 

[PleasantValley]

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Feinstein is still the favorite to win in November. But it's telling that she doesn't have the support of the core of the Democratic Party in her state. How far is this shift to the left likely to go? How much of a factor will it be in November? Looking down the barrel of a loaded election is usually enough to make a party get more practical, but the intensity of the fringe this year seems greater, possibly more consequential. In any case, it will certainly be used to scare moderates and motivate the Republican base.

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F*CK Private Property ??????

So the government owns my underwear, my coffee cup, my vehicle, my house, my land?

...but...but...I worked hard and paid for all of that stuff ???

Now i have to give it all away to some apartment dwelling misfit Democratic socialist?

...but...but...after they take it away from me, doesn't it mean now THEY are private property owners ????

 

[PleasantValley]

I must admit, that poster sickens me more than just a little bit.

It basically says "we can come in and take your **** at gunpoint if we want" all over it.

They better learn how to shoot first.

 

[Oborosen]

They better learn how to shoot first.

Something tells me, they are going to play the quantity over quality game on that one.

Like I've said before. I am reaffirmed in my choice of leaving that party, everyday that I look back at it.

 

[PleasantValley]

Something tells me, they are going to play the quantity over quality game on that one.

Like I've said before. I am reaffirmed in my choice of leaving that party, everyday that I look back at it.

They can play "quantity" all day long.
It generally never has beaten proper sight alignment and trigger control.

Idealogs also generally run when their hoodies get splattered with grey matter from the guy in front of them.

TRANSLATION: This guy is determined to fight for the life he has left to yet live. They had best be even more determined to take it away from me.

OK, time to log off. Enough internet tough guy talk for this morning.

 

[OrphanSlug]

*Some* Democrats are moving further left, and becoming the “Democratic Socialists of America” which is more or less a splinter within the Democratic Party trying to capitalize on what Sanders tapped into when campaigning against Hillary in the primary.

Sadly, it stands to reason that this would be happening as opposite to them we have the more prejudiced and misogynist leaning white nationalist faction starting to form on the outskirts of the Republican Party trying to capitalize on what they see in Trump and a few others using similar rhetoric.

Both are examples of the extreme within the party trying to break out into their own, but the reality is that isolates even more voters stuck somewhere in the middle that consider both extremes as bat **** crazy lunatics.

 

[Acadia]

F*CK Private Property ??????

So the government owns my underwear, my coffee cup, my vehicle, my house, my land?

...but...but...I worked hard and paid for all of that stuff ???

Now i have to give it all away to some apartment dwelling misfit Democratic socialist?

...but...but...after they take it away from me, doesn't it mean now THEY are private property owners ????

What did Obama say? You didn't do that yourself...:roll:

 

[Aristaeus]

F*CK Private Property ??????

So the government owns my underwear, my coffee cup, my vehicle, my house, my land?

...but...but...I worked hard and paid for all of that stuff ???

Now i have to give it all away to some apartment dwelling misfit Democratic socialist?

...but...but...after they take it away from me, doesn't it mean now THEY are private property owners ????

Perhaps you should learn the difference between private property and private possessions in the context of socialist economic theory.

What you listed are private possessions. Private property is more the means of production, etc. Socialists are not going to confiscate your underwear.

 

[Aristaeus]

What did Obama say? You didn't do that yourself...:roll:

Well I guess it's possible that Pleasant Valley created his own local government planning department to give himself permission to build a factory completely by his own hand in which only he works in, and that he personally built the roads that allowed the building materials that he personally manufactured to get to the site. In which case he did do it himself.... but I doubt he did.

 

[cabse5]

Dropping the moderates worked for Republicans, so apparently it's a strategy that works.

Moderate democrats moved to the GOP.:lamo So I don't know which strategy you refer to.

 

[cabse5]

*Some* Democrats are moving further left, and becoming the “Democratic Socialists of America” which is more or less a splinter within the Democratic Party trying to capitalize on what Sanders tapped into when campaigning against Hillary in the primary.

Sadly, it stands to reason that this would be happening as opposite to them we have the more prejudiced and misogynist leaning white nationalist faction starting to form on the outskirts of the Republican Party trying to capitalize on what they see in Trump and a few others using similar rhetoric.

Both are examples of the extreme within the party trying to break out into their own, but the reality is that isolates even more voters stuck somewhere in the middle that consider both extremes as bat **** crazy lunatics.

Like I posted in another on this thread, some moderate democrats have become GOP. Our president is an example. So, the middle does have someplace to go and it ain't the Democratic Party, that's for sure.

 

[Casper]

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Feinstein is still the favorite to win in November. But it's telling that she doesn't have the support of the core of the Democratic Party in her state. How far is this shift to the left likely to go? How much of a factor will it be in November? Looking down the barrel of a loaded election is usually enough to make a party get more practical, but the intensity of the fringe this year seems greater, possibly more consequential. In any case, it will certainly be used to scare moderates and motivate the Republican base.

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Isn't that what the Repubs have done, get rid of most moderates, calling them RINO's and shouting down any that dare not toe the line. I think that you might want to take a good long look in the mirror before attempting to critic the other guys.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Like I posted in another on this thread, some moderate democrats have become GOP. Our president is an example. So, the middle does have someplace to go and it ain't the Democratic Party, that's for sure.

Not sure I buy that.

Moderates can flip around but those in the extremes of both party seem to be the ones most interested in moving their party further left or right. Independents do not have a place in either extreme, and are continually finding they do not have a place in either party anyway. All the polls on Party Afffilication and Party Lean support this, the group in the middle stuck between these two parties is expanding.

 

[cabse5]

Not sure I buy that.

Moderates can flip around but those in the extremes of both party seem to be the ones most interested in moving their party further left or right. Independents do not have a place in either extreme, and are continually finding they do not have a place in either party anyway. All the polls on Party Afffilication and Party Lean support this, the group in the middle stuck between these two parties is expanding.

How is Donald Trump an extreme?

 

[OrphanSlug]

How is Donald Trump an extreme?

My case for that would be based on his authoritarianism, he seems to speak to a group of voters who are looking for some sort of blend of 1950’s social conservative thinking with modern government economic presence. The overwhelming amount of his time in office so far has caused disruption and aided in our own political divisions. His tendency to engage more authoritarian governments leaning a way he seems to lean himself and also cause issues with some of our closest allies suggests Trump looks to the very authoritarianism we should be concerned about.

BTW, for the purposes of this discussion he speaks to those within the party that are extreme.

 

[VanceMack]

Yep...they are dumping their left leaning democrats for a straight up leftist socialist...that makes Sarah Palin look like a financial and global political genus.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

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Feinstein is still the favorite to win in November. But it's telling that she doesn't have the support of the core of the Democratic Party in her state. How far is this shift to the left likely to go? How much of a factor will it be in November? Looking down the barrel of a loaded election is usually enough to make a party get more practical, but the intensity of the fringe this year seems greater, possibly more consequential. In any case, it will certainly be used to scare moderates and motivate the Republican base.

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Yawn.

Democratic Socialist and Democrats are two different things.

But you already knew that.

November clearly has some fake conservatives and Trump worshipers soiling themselves in fear.

 

[Manc Skipper]

They only seem far left compared to the fascistic GoP. They're pulling back to where they were rather than compete on that territory.

 

[PleasantValley]

Perhaps you should learn the difference between private property and private possessions in the context of socialist economic theory.

What you listed are private possessions. Private property is more the means of production, etc. Socialists are not going to confiscate your underwear.

WHOOOSH !

I concede that point went right over my head.

To me....the acreage I own is my private property.
Just like their sign says.
Their sign did not say NO private "means of production".

You are 100% correct when you say i do not understand the differences in social economic theory.
What i have seen in social economic PRACTICE is they want to seize what someone else owns.
That someone else being me.

 

[PleasantValley]

Well I guess it's possible that Pleasant Valley created his own local government planning department to give himself permission to build a factory completely by his own hand in which only he works in, and that he personally built the roads that allowed the building materials that he personally manufactured to get to the site. In which case he did do it himself.... but I doubt he did.

I had help from my neighbors.
1. We do not need permission to do anything on our own property, and don't ask permission either.
2. The roads were already built by previous owners of the land.
3. The house was also already built when i bought it. I just made a few improvements.

I did build a really nice BBQ pit though, shooting range, and picnic gazebo. Come on by, I will cook you and yours a cow one of my neighbors "manufactured".
I just love our socialist utopia we created up here in the woods. Neighbors helping each other rather than TAKING from each other and others.
You should sample some of the pickled tomato preserves. Yummy & sweet.

 

[OlNate]

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Feinstein is still the favorite to win in November. But it's telling that she doesn't have the support of the core of the Democratic Party in her state. How far is this shift to the left likely to go? How much of a factor will it be in November? Looking down the barrel of a loaded election is usually enough to make a party get more practical, but the intensity of the fringe this year seems greater, possibly more consequential. In any case, it will certainly be used to scare moderates and motivate the Republican base.

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Thank you, LD, for giving the conservatives on the board something to wring their hands over today, other than how badly the president of the USA **** the bed yesterday. Seriously, this is therapeutic, not even doing to dispute the OP for being the inflammatory, ridiculous nonsense that it is. I won't begrudge you guys a safe space today.

 

[PleasantValley]

Yep...they are dumping their left leaning democrats for a straight up leftist socialist...that makes Sarah Palin look like a financial and global political genus.

Kudos on your avatar, my friend. That was kind of you to do that.