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Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla is forcefully removed from Noem’s news conference and handcuffed

It is alright that you were committing a logical fallacy and asking people to prove negatives, Bodi.

Just learn to debate better.


The confidence.... LOL.
 
Padillo did not lie concerning the "lunging" accusation. He did not lunge at Noem. But if you watch a more complete video you'll see his resisting and pushing against the agents to continue forward could very well be described as "lunging."

And of course, he didn't get any closer than 15 feet because the Secret Service/FBI stopped him. By his description he was seated until he couldn't take "it" anymore and got up to "ask" his question. And here we are at post #1,178 still wrangling over whether or not the provocateur was mistreated.
 
Sigh. You people have such inferiority complexes.
 
So you don't know.

I said that we don't know, so saying the we know he is innocent and she is bad... is stupid uneducated blather.
Which eyewitness said that he charged at her?


You said you don't know and then proceded to say "charging". That would mean the use of the word, charging is exaggerated hyperbole to paint a biased interpretation.
 
Padillo did not lie concerning the "lunging" accusation. He did not lunge at Noem.
That's my understanding at this time.

But if you watch a more complete video you'll see his resisting and pushing against the agents to continue forward could very well be described as "lunging."

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So you mean lunging at the Agents, but not specifically lunging at her. I wouldn't disagree.


Which still means people in the room estimated that he was never more than 15 feet away from her.

For the record - He could've protested differently. But I don't blame him. The agents could have acted differently, and I object to what they did.
 
Theatrics on the part of Padilla in my opinion, but I don't disagree with the questions he had. It's just about finding a more effective way of dealing with the clown show instead of adding to it.
 
Re: For the record - He could've protested differently. But I don't blame him. The agents could have acted differently, and I object to what they did.

The few comments from former federal law enforcement officers I've read or listened to uniformly claim the agents acted correctly. Some differ on what happened once they had Padillo outside the conference room (he should not have been put down on the ground and cuffed.)

And to clarify and agree, yes, any "lunging" was against the agents and nowhere near Noem.
 
I mostly agree, but even if the agents were compliant with FBI policies I don't think they should have chosen that. I can say I don't blame them until the moments outside the room in the hallway. Before that, I understand what they did.
 
Condoning a man intimidating a woman



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Are you suggesting the head of DHS is intimidated by a fat middle-aged man, what with all the security that is present?

You seem to have a low opinion of women in that regard.
 
Please show your proof that he didn't charge her...





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He was an unhinged maniac. I was amazed by the restraint that law enforcement showed when they restrained him. They would have been well within their protocol to use their tasers.

He should consider himself lucky.
 
He was an unhinged maniac. I was amazed by the restraint that law enforcement showed when they restrained him. They would have been well within their protocol to use their tasers.

He should consider himself lucky.
My guess is Padillo does consider himself lucky, but not for not being tased.

He was interviewed earlier today by Dana Bash's State of the Union program. Still claiming he was only trying to ask a question. But the incident gave him a worldwide platform to express his indignation and list his complaints. Not a word about the meeting with Noem following the incident.
 
Virtue signaling nonsense is about all these people have left to offer, I'm afraid.
 
Are you suggesting the head of DHS is intimidated by a fat middle-aged man, what with all the security that is present?

Why do you hate women so much that you think a main intimidating a woman is acceptable behavior?
 
He was an unhinged maniac. I was amazed by the restraint that law enforcement showed when they restrained him. They would have been well within their protocol to use their tasers.

He should consider himself lucky.

Imagine if he was trained... the whole thing would be a mess.
 
He was an unhinged maniac. I was amazed by the restraint that law enforcement showed when they restrained him. They would have been well within their protocol to use their tasers.

He should consider himself lucky.
Maybe they should have cut his feet off.

He'd never get lippy again.
 
This is grounds for Noem's removal. The officers in question must be terminated and their benefits and pensions must be cancelled.