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Democratic Party Division

Glowpun

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We now see deep division within the Democratic Party. With this infighting will this not be great for the trumpists in the 2022 election? Or does it really matter?
 
It's Potemkin Infighting. Nothing much will change in the bill sent to the Senate, but the Progressives must be seen to put up a fight.

It's not a real fight until someone gets called a Child Molester, right?
 
Spirit of The Millennium said:
It's Potemkin Infighting. Nothing much will change in the bill sent to the Senate, but the Progressives must be seen to put up a fight.
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The bill that has been proposed is already Nancy's cave-in to the progressives in the Democratic Party...just with necessary elements to satisfy her corporate paymasters. Unfortunately, there are a few Democrats who either don't agree with various aspects of the bill (Manchin/Sinema) or who see this as an opportunity to unseat Nancy (https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=21041712-letter-to-p).

Spirit of The Millennium said:
It's not a real fight until someone gets called a Child Molester, right?
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We have already seen the "molestation" from one side.



It's only going to get worse.
 
Glowpun said:
We now see deep division within the Democratic Party. With this infighting will this not be great for the trumpists in the 2022 election? Or does it really matter?
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As a result of various factions coming together to prevent Trump his second term, what those people didn't realize is that, once they succeeded, they would have to contend with each other instead of with Trump. (The fact that Trump is still a danger to them just gives the various factions more motivation to get their factions into an advantageous position before the shit hits the fan in 2022 and 2024.)

Those various factions also include the puppet masters of the Biden administration who have their own agenda. Their actions also affect public opinion of the Democratic Party, as a whole.

This is a real mess for the Democrats who know they have a limited time...just over a year...to get as much of their liberal agenda, both progressive and moderate (meaning "globalist"), enacted as they can.
 
Mycroft said:
The bill that has been proposed is already Nancy's cave-in to the progressives in the Democratic Party...just with necessary elements to satisfy her corporate paymasters. Unfortunately, there are a few Democrats who either don't agree with various aspects of the bill (Manchin/Sinema) or who see this as an opportunity to unseat Nancy (https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=21041712-letter-to-p).
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It baffles me why this works. Progressives can make demands (they have Sanders in the Senate) and only two things can follow from that: Manchin budges a tiny bit. Or disaster. How are they satisfied with a public showdown that they will utterly lose?

Ah. They're playing to their own voters, in deep blue districts. I.E. just about the only people in the US who don't matter. Genius.
 
Spirit of The Millennium said:
It baffles me why this works. Progressives can make demands (they have Sanders in the Senate) and only two things can follow from that: Manchin budges a tiny bit. Or disaster. How are they satisfied with a public showdown that they will utterly lose?

Ah. They're playing to their own voters, in deep blue districts. I.E. just about the only people in the US who don't matter. Genius.
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I don't think they really care all that much about their own voters. Those voters are mostly sheep who the Party Elites can manipulate at will.

No...as I said, they have a limited time to get as much of their agenda enacted as they can. Everything in Congress will change in 2022. (Especially with fewer GOP Elites around.)
 
The GOP was favored to win in 2022 regardless of the caviling between the wings in the Democratic Party.

History has not been kind to the Presidents party going into the midterm elections. Losing seats and/or majority tends to be the rule rather than the exception.
 
If they pass both these bills it will be a huge plus in 2022. If they don't pass at least the first one it will be a blow out of mega proportions. They now this, they also know they realistically only have two years to get it all done. They will make it happen.
 
Callen said:
If they pass both these bills it will be a huge plus in 2022. If they don't pass at least the first one it will be a blow out of mega proportions. They now this, they also know they realistically only have two years to get it all done. They will make it happen.
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Two years is optimistic. They do have 16 months. Assuming Manchin gets in the Bearpit, it could be a Lame Duck to remember!

Yeap, I'm pessimistic. But the modern pattern really hammers the theme that first midterms go bad for the White House incumbent. Two more different Presidents than Obama and Trump, you couldn't find, but they both got hammered.
 
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