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Democracy Perception Index

Why are autocracies like Qatar and Singapore that high up on the list?
 
Sweden said:
Singapore is not an autocracy.

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Freedom House only gives Singapore 19/40 on Political Rights, and 29/60 on Civil Rights which is low, not Russia or Qatar level low, so perhaps not a full auotcracy, but still authoritarian levels of low.
 
Loulit01 said:
What are these numbers based on?
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The Democracy Perception Index (DPI) is an annual global survey conducted by the Alliance of Democracies and Latana that measures how people perceive the state of democracy in their countries. It is the world's largest study of its kind, covering over 50 countries and representing more than 75% of the global population. The DPI focuses on public perceptions of core democratic benefits like political voice, public interest, free speech, and access to information.
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Thanks Allen.

Trump's USA is only marginally better than Putin's Russia when it comes to Democracy.
 
Allan said:
The 2025 Democracy Perception Index is out and has some interesting changes in perceptions.

For the first time China is ahead of the US.

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This is rich, especially considering that 5.8 billion people—about 3/4ths of the total population of the planet—live under some form of autocracy. It’s a good thing it’s called the Democracy Perception Index and not the Democracy Reality Index, because it looks like they found and cloned Mr. Magoo as a source of respondents. I mean, I knew foreigners were screwed up in how they view the world, but this takes the word “ridiculous” to a whole new level. For example, Egypt is ranked two spots above the United States. Do they know that Egypt is not democracy but an authoritarian military dictatorship that took power in a violent coup? How could you seriously post this kind of garbage?
 
Ahlevah said:
This is rich, especially considering that 5.8 billion people—about 3/4ths of the total population of the planet—live under some form of autocracy. It’s a good thing it’s called the Democracy Perception Index and not the Democracy Reality Index, because it looks like they found and cloned Mr. Magoo as a source of respondents. I mean, I knew foreigners were screwed up in how they view the world, but this takes the word “ridiculous” to a whole new level. For example, Egypt is ranked two spots above the United States. Do they know that Egypt is not democracy but an authoritarian military dictatorship that took power in a violent coup? How could you seriously post this kind of garbage?
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I think I agree that the path has some cracks showing in the pavement used to pave that "Index Road" and maybe we can find other such indexes to compare to this one? Just wondering, given that actually none of us is really "free" unless we have about half a billion dollars sitting down in the basement. Even a million dollars is no longer a ticket to freedom, like it used to be. Money is the Boss. Money is the Freedom Index. Well, what is perceived by some to be "money". Even the definition of "money" has changed in my lifetime, which is admittedly a tad lengthy now.
 
Ahlevah said:
This is rich, especially considering that 5.8 billion people—about 3/4ths of the total population of the planet—live under some form of autocracy. It’s a good thing it’s called the Democracy Perception Index and not the Democracy Reality Index, because it looks like they found and cloned Mr. Magoo as a source of respondents. I mean, I knew foreigners were screwed up in how they view the world, but this takes the word “ridiculous” to a whole new level. For example, Egypt is ranked two spots above the United States. Do they know that Egypt is not democracy but an authoritarian military dictatorship that took power in a violent coup? How could you seriously post this kind of garbage?
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You don't find it interesting that Egyptians perceive their democracy better than Americans perceive their own?

It's indicative to me that either Egyptians have seen worse times, or that their government has them hoodwinked.
 
Allan said:
You don't find it interesting that Egyptians perceive their democracy better than Americans perceive their own?
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My understanding is the Net Favorability Index is a measure of how people perceive democracy not in their own countries, but their net negative or positive view of democracy in other countries. So for people to think that autocratic dictatorships like China and Egypt are more favorable to democracy than the United States, even under Donald Trump, is simply absurd. Putting Israel one rung above Iran on the bottom of the index is beyond absurd. It’s really a measure of how ignorant or gullible to propaganda many people are, and if accurate bodes ill for the future of democracy around the globe. I think the United States made a mistake when it abolished the U.S. Information Agency and rolled it as a “cultural cone” into the State Department. While the Cold War and communist tyranny in much of Eastern Europe unofficially ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the global battle for democratic hearts and minds never did. Sadly, the West seems to be losing that one, and it didn’t just begin with the election of Donald Trump.

Allan said:
It's indicative to me that either Egyptians have seen worse times, or that their government has them hoodwinked.
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It’s indicative that more people than ever are clueless when it comes to understanding the true meaning of the word “democracy.” While self-government is the moral right and should be the object of every human being, people who aren’t equipped with the requisite knowledge of how they should be governed and who lack a propensity towards civil behavior probably shouldn’t do it. I mean, this may be a blunt truth, but some people, given their knowledge and mindset, make better slaves than citizens. 🤷‍♂️ Unless they’re extremely fortuitous, the “slaves” likely won’t be able to maintain their freedom. Historical examples of this are legion. People in these countries, if they can’t or won’t escape, should just learn a skill, like growing rice or making charcoal, and how to be happy living as a slave under an autocrat. 🤷‍♂️
 
Ahlevah said:
My understanding is the Net Favorability Index is a measure of how people perceive democracy not in their own countries, but their net negative or positive view of democracy in other countries.
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The Democracy Perception Index (DPI) is an annual global survey, conducted by Latana for the Alliance of Democracies, that measures how people perceive the state of democracy in their respective countries.
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Allan said:
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No, man, I’m talking about the part of the survey you highlighted, the Net Favorable Rating:

A recent global survey reveals that China has surpassed the United States in global favorability for the first time. The 2025 Democracy Perception Index highlights a decline in the U.S. net favorability from +22% to -5% within a year, while China now holds a net positive global image, particularly in Central Asia, Mexico, Canada, and most of Europe. The survey also indicates that Xi Jinping is viewed more favorably than Donald Trump worldwide.
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I mean, if more people globally, in fact, view Xi Jinping more favorably than Donald Trump, they deserve a leader like him more in tune with Quotations from Chairman Mao. They really do. That goes for Europeans, Canadians, Australians, and any other Western-oriented “democrats.” Even Americans.
 
Allan said:
You're still not understanding the methodology.
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What is so hard to understand about the statement made in your graphic:

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This aspect of the survey refers to favorability comparisons between how other countries, not their own, influence democracy globally. I promise you Israelis don’t put their own democracy in the toilet relative to Egypt’s authoritarian dictatorship. That’s something gullible “anti-Zionist” and Hamas-apologist Westerners would do.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Thanks Allen.

Trump's USA is only marginally better than Putin's Russia when it comes to Democracy.
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Hopefully, your judgment hasn’t been so clouded by leftist, anti-Trump dysphoria that you honestly believe that.
 
Something else I just noticed --- well, just as I did that last post in this thread the server went down, and I lost my edit to that post --- BUT I see that one-year change in the chart for the U.S. (the blue line) 22% to -5% and I find that more than a tad odd. I don't think I have the time to dig into who put that chart together, and I don't think defining "odd" is a good idea at this stage, but - - - well, it is odd. And odd for more than one reason [not so clever hint].

And by "dig into" I don't mean the outer office staff. Or even the publicly acknowledged staff.

AND, a scan here:

Terms and Conditions

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tends to make one a little bit interested in just who those folks are. A reference to a New York law and then further down we see some sort of legal stuff related to Germany, the UK, the EU and I know that game really well. That's stretching the legal rubber band. And nothing of note on this page:

Nira Data – About Us

Get unparalleled insights on global attitudes towards democracy, government effectiveness, political leaders and many other topics-based on millions of interviews per year from across 100+ countries
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Yep, that would require the proper connections to the right folks and have them return a favor and ask them to "dig". OR you promise a "favor" in return and ask for the shovel to be gotten out of the closet where that stuff is under lock-and-key. I wonder what "nira" means.
 
medi said:
Something else I just noticed --- well, just as I did that last post in this thread the server went down, and I lost my edit to that post --- BUT I see that one-year change in the chart for the U.S. (the blue line) 22% to -5% and I find that more than a tad odd. I don't think I have the time to dig into who put that chart together, and I don't think defining "odd" is a good idea at this stage, but - - - well, it is odd. And odd for more than one reason [not so clever hint].

And by "dig into" I don't mean the outer office staff. Or even the publicly acknowledged staff.

AND, a scan here:

Terms and Conditions

www.niradata.com www.niradata.com
tends to make one a little bit interested in just who those folks are. A reference to a New York law and then further down we see some sort of legal stuff related to Germany, the UK, the EU and I know that game really well. That's stretching the legal rubber band. And nothing of note on this page:

Nira Data – About Us

Get unparalleled insights on global attitudes towards democracy, government effectiveness, political leaders and many other topics-based on millions of interviews per year from across 100+ countries
www.niradata.com www.niradata.com

Yep, that would require the proper connections to the right folks and have them return a favor and ask them to "dig". OR you promise a "favor" in return and ask for the shovel to be gotten out of the closet where that stuff is under lock-and-key. I wonder what "nira" means.
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I have to wonder how reliable a survey in an autocratic police state like China that monitors everyone everywhere would be. And if its hackers can break into Pentagon severs or databases for virtually every major American defense contractor, why couldn’t they compromise or manipulate online surveys or data in an enterprise such as Nira or its Democracy Perception Index?

Personally, I think the best surveys are based on what people actually do, either with protests, taking up arms, or by voting with their feet. A lot of Chinese people have been coming to America of late. Not so many Americans to China. Ukrainians have made it pretty clear which countries they think are more democratic. And we can reasonably conclude that countries like Cuba and Venezuela majorly suck, because people have fled those places by the millions in order to live among “capitalist-imperialists” in America. Even with Trump president, more Canadians are joining the “Nazis” to the south than Americans are moving northward to Canada even though America’s population dwarfs Canada’s. 🤷‍♂️

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The American mass exodus to Canada amid Trump 2.0 has yet to materialize

Numbers for the first quarter of 2025 show no signs of any significant uptick in Americans moving to Canada.
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Canada, however, is doing a good job of late taking up Joe Biden’s “asylum seeker” baton. Prospects for a favorable resolution to an asylum petition are helped if the petitioner claims he’s being persecuted for being gay, lesbian, or trans.

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Refugee Surge 2025: Where Are the Asylum Seekers Coming From? - Immigration 2 Canada

Explore the latest 2025 refugee claim data in Canada. Which countries are seeing the most asylum seekers? Full breakdown by alleged country of persecution, acceptance rates, historical trends, and more.
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