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Dem immigration talking points fizzle as dark picture of Abrego Garcia emerges

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I was thinking of putting this in Breaking News, but's not breaking. It's old. The news is old. The article is from today, May 4th.

Same reports. Wife beater, human trafficker, and MS-13 gang member. Lookie here. Proof.

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Alrighty then. Wha'cha think? This article was published Sunday. The same day Trump got confused on Meet the Press. Photoshop? What's Photoshop?

This is how Trump media covers his ass. Double down on the stupid, and MAGA smile.
 
Wife beater, human trafficker, and MS-13 gang member.
MS-13 and TdA have been declared to be "Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Maybe what is needed is a Supreme Court decision that people in such organizations are all, instantly, deportable. Or maybe just that illegal aliens are not entitled to the legal protections of the Constitution. We can't afford to have millions of these people queued up for trial that'll take a year or more.

It;s a bit off topic, but it was reported today that 3 illegal aliens from Georgia (the country) broke into a man's home near L.A., tied him up, and eventually beat him to death.

Trump was right about many of the people who broke into our country.
 
MS-13 and TdA have been declared to be "Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Maybe what is needed is a Supreme Court decision that people in such organizations are all, instantly, deportable. Or maybe just that illegal aliens are not entitled to the legal protections of the Constitution. We can't afford to have millions of these people queued up for trial that'll take a year or more.

It;s a bit off topic, but it was reported today that 3 illegal aliens from Georgia (the country) broke into a man's home near L.A., tied him up, and eventually beat him to death.

Trump was right about many of the people who broke into our country.
Trump ****ed up on MTP. He thinks the tattoo is real. Fox covers his ass with two-week old news, including the photo in question.

Fox is Trump propaganda. That's the point.
 

I was thinking of putting this in Breaking News, but's not breaking. It's old. The news is old. The article is from today, May 4th.

Same reports. Wife beater, human trafficker, and MS-13 gang member. Lookie here. Proof.

2826607528b623bb.jpg


Alrighty then. Wha'cha think? This article was published Sunday. The same day Trump got confused on Meet the Press. Photoshop? What's Photoshop?

This is how Trump media covers his ass. Double down on the stupid, and MAGA smile.
President Trump is a ****ing moron. The White House insiders who created this image for Trump, which looks like it was doctored by somebody wielding a vintage IBM Selectric typewriter, probably looked at each other laughing hysterically saying, "I'd bet Trump is too stupid to see this is an altered photo. Just tell him what he wants to hear." :ROFLMAO:


This country would have been better off giving Joe Biden another term, even if he spent the day wearing a bib in a highchair being fed strained peas.
 
MS-13 and TdA have been declared to be "Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Maybe what is needed is a Supreme Court decision that people in such organizations are all, instantly, deportable. Or maybe just that illegal aliens are not entitled to the legal protections of the Constitution. We can't afford to have millions of these people queued up for trial that'll take a year or more.

It;s a bit off topic, but it was reported today that 3 illegal aliens from Georgia (the country) broke into a man's home near L.A., tied him up, and eventually beat him to death.

Trump was right about many of the people who broke into our country.
It's hard to imagine anyone missing the point of the OP by more than you have.
But I guess that's to be expected when being pro-Trump is a person's default setting.
 
President Trump is a ****ing moron. The White House insiders who created this image for Trump, which looks like it was doctored by somebody wielding a vintage IBM Selectric typewriter, probably looked at each other laughing hysterically saying, "I'd bet Trump is too stupid to see this is an altered photo. Just tell him what he wants to hear." :ROFLMAO:


This country would have been better off giving Joe Biden another term, even if he spent the day wearing a bib in a highchair being fed strained peas.
It seems I'm in error. Trump argued with Terry Moran four days ago about the tattoo, not on MTP today.

The point stands. After making a fool of himself, Fox covers his ass with old news.

Yeah, give me that old Biden dementia.
 
No matter how good or bad the person, no matter what crimes the person has or hasn't committed, all people, by law, are entitled to due process. Citizenship status doesn't matter. Entering the country illegally doesn't matter. Under the laws of the United States, all people are entitled to due process.

If we don't follow our own laws, we're no better than the illegals we wish to banish.

I can't believe I have to feed these facts to Americans. Some of you self-professed patriots have no idea what our constitution says, our how our government functions.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 18:

[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

The Supreme Court extended these constitutional protections to all aliens within the United States, including those who entered unlawfully, declaring that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law.3 The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.4 Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.5 Accordingly, notwithstanding Congress’s indisputably broad power to regulate immigration, fundamental due process requirements notably constrained that power with respect to aliens within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.6

Many of you here should be ashamed you don't know this. Deeply ashamed. Go read the constitution if you wish to maintain even a little self-respect.
 

I was thinking of putting this in Breaking News, but's not breaking. It's old. The news is old. The article is from today, May 4th.

Same reports. Wife beater, human trafficker, and MS-13 gang member. Lookie here. Proof.

2826607528b623bb.jpg


Alrighty then. Wha'cha think? This article was published Sunday. The same day Trump got confused on Meet the Press. Photoshop? What's Photoshop?

This is how Trump media covers his ass. Double down on the stupid, and MAGA smile.
Liar and chief. Real asshole that's for sure.
 

I was thinking of putting this in Breaking News, but's not breaking. It's old. The news is old. The article is from today, May 4th.

Same reports. Wife beater, human trafficker, and MS-13 gang member. Lookie here. Proof.

2826607528b623bb.jpg


Alrighty then. Wha'cha think? This article was published Sunday. The same day Trump got confused on Meet the Press. Photoshop? What's Photoshop?

This is how Trump media covers his ass. Double down on the stupid, and MAGA smile.




Here's your hero human trafficking illegal migrants.
 

I was thinking of putting this in Breaking News, but's not breaking. It's old. The news is old. The article is from today, May 4th.

Same reports. Wife beater, human trafficker, and MS-13 gang member. Lookie here. Proof.

2826607528b623bb.jpg


Alrighty then. Wha'cha think? This article was published Sunday. The same day Trump got confused on Meet the Press. Photoshop? What's Photoshop?

This is how Trump media covers his ass. Double down on the stupid, and MAGA smile.
This guy is just a plain old "Maryland Man".
 
No matter how good or bad the person, no matter what crimes the person has or hasn't committed, all people, by law, are entitled to due process. Citizenship status doesn't matter. Entering the country illegally doesn't matter. Under the laws of the United States, all people are entitled to due process.

If we don't follow our own laws, we're no better than the illegals we wish to banish.

I can't believe I have to feed these facts to Americans. Some of you self-professed patriots have no idea what our constitution says, our how our government functions.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 18:

[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

The Supreme Court extended these constitutional protections to all aliens within the United States, including those who entered unlawfully, declaring that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law.3 The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.4 Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.5 Accordingly, notwithstanding Congress’s indisputably broad power to regulate immigration, fundamental due process requirements notably constrained that power with respect to aliens within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.6

Many of you here should be ashamed you don't know this. Deeply ashamed. Go read the constitution if you wish to maintain even a little self-respect.

We see here a former Department of Justice prosecutor who seems to have some difference of opinion with what you seem to have such solid footing on that the concrete has hardened around your feet and we only see you from ankles up:



Any chance we can read your step-by-step refuting of what that former Department of Justice prosecutor outlines? Or will we get that playbook rant about how Fox is ...

By the way, do you really understand why that vocabulary "DUE" is modifying the vocabulary "PROCESS"?

By the way, concrete shoes/boots are very dangerous.
 
This guy is just a plain old "Maryland Man".

Forget the evidence, deportations, crimes, etc......it's all about tattoo's now. They never learn and get fooled to jump in a false narrative and when it implodes, it's denial or amnesia......every damn time, lol.
 



Here's your hero human trafficking illegal migrants.

Then the government should charge him with a crime and give him due process.

How hard is it to understand that if we give the government the power to deny due process to anyone before sending them off to prison that the protection of mere citizenship is a very thin barrier to protect oneself?
 
Then the government should charge him with a crime and give him due process.

How hard is it to understand that if we give the government the power to deny due process to anyone before sending them off to prison that the protection of mere citizenship is a very thin barrier to protect oneself?

Where was the due process for American citizens when he was permitted to illegally enter our country?
 
Where was the due process for American citizens when he was permitted to illegally enter our country?
Individuals are not the State.

When We the People are acting as the State against individuals, they have certain rights. If the State can simply declare that one is a criminal and ship them off to a another country to be imprisoned in a hell hole then it is only a matter of time that none of us are safe.

Used to be a time when Conservatives pretended that they wanted to curb the powers of the State. All it took was a carnival barker to get them to abandon such things.
 
Where was the due process for American citizens when he was permitted to illegally enter our country?
I guess you're just here publicly admitting that you have no clue how due process works? Right?

Or did your comment have some other intention?
 
MS-13 and TdA have been declared to be "Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Maybe what is needed is a Supreme Court decision that people in such organizations are all, instantly, deportable. Or maybe just that illegal aliens are not entitled to the legal protections of the Constitution. We can't afford to have millions of these people queued up for trial that'll take a year or more.

It;s a bit off topic, but it was reported today that 3 illegal aliens from Georgia (the country) broke into a man's home near L.A., tied him up, and eventually beat him to death.

Trump was right about many of the people who broke into our country.

You know, they aren't really terrorist groups. And we aren't really at war with anyone. We don't really have a national emergency. You do realize that don't you? This is what fascists do.

Most criminals are citizens. If you're worried about crime, you might focus on them.
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We see here a former Department of Justice prosecutor who seems to have some difference of opinion with what you seem to have such solid footing on that the concrete has hardened around your feet and we only see you from ankles up:



Any chance we can read your step-by-step refuting of what that former Department of Justice prosecutor outlines? Or will we get that playbook rant about how Fox is ...

By the way, do you really understand why that vocabulary "DUE" is modifying the vocabulary "PROCESS"?

By the way, concrete shoes/boots are very dangerous.

I think you're talking to me. If you want a response find a reputable source.
 
I can't believe I have to feed these facts to Americans. Some of you self-professed patriots have no idea what our constitution says, our how our government functions.
Was Obama a patriot then? He dispatched due process at record levels.
 
You know, they aren't really terrorist groups. And we aren't really at war with anyone. We don't really have a national emergency. You do realize that don't you? This is what fascists do.

Most criminals are citizens. If you're worried about crime, you might focus on them.
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So you have information that refutes a U.S. Congressional report, correct.


MS-13 in the United States and Federal Law
Enforcement Efforts
Updated August 20, 2018

Summary
The Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) is a violent criminal gang operating both in the United States and abroad—namely Central America. MS-13 was formed on the streets of Los Angeles, CA, in the 1980s by refugees who were fleeing civil conflict in El Salvador. It became a transnational gang as MS-13 members who were deported from the United States to Central America helped establish gang ties and spread U.S. gang culture abroad.
[First paragraph of the summary.]

That is a 19 page report and you can see it was submitted to Congress some years ago. In that period of time that "criminal gang" has not gotten smaller. Has not disappeared off the law enforcement radar.

So six and a half-plus years later the Executive Branch Executive decides it is time to declare this "criminal gang" a terrorist organization, BUT you have information that can prove they are not?

Please share that information with us. Or provide the link to where you may have already shared that information in another thread.

Thank you.

Just a friendly request. No profanity. No slander. No bad language. Just a friendly request.
 
I think you're talking to me. If you want a response find a reputable source.

Yes, master! We heed thy wise words and deny all other sources of information, as the only source of truth and understanding is from thy fingers or voice-to-text.

And I replace Ramparts magazine as my trusted source and place your voice above all.
 
Individuals are not the State.

When We the People are acting as the State against individuals, they have certain rights. If the State can simply declare that one is a criminal and ship them off to a another country to be imprisoned in a hell hole then it is only a matter of time that none of us are safe.

Used to be a time when Conservatives pretended that they wanted to curb the powers of the State. All it took was a carnival barker to get them to abandon such things.

Do you honestly believe that nobody sees how the democrat party is using these illegal immigrants for political pawns?

Biden administration on 'day one' obliterated a secure border, funded NGO's to facilitate the illegality of invading our country by the millions without any due process for the rights of American citizens, in fact purposefully denied the rights of our immigration laws or attempt to follow the Constitution and oath of office.

Now, all of the sudden when not in control or power of the presidency or congress scream "due process" to purposefully get the courts, already backlogged to become an even worse cluster, so they can gain talking points to use on the current administration.

They are really not that smart, fyi.
 
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