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Deep red Kansas votes to support right to abortion....

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who would have thunk???! Not me. This sends a chilling message to the far right for the mid terms.

Kansans vote to uphold abortion rights in their state

The proposed amendment was the first time anywhere in the U.S. that voters cast ballots on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.
www.nbcnews.com
 
Ton of threads on this already but I don't know if I'd classify Kansas as deep red. They do have a Democratic Governor.

Abortion will have little to do with the midterms.
 


Hardly.

It showed that every state needs to have a popular vote on the issue of abortion instead of a few people in the state legislature.

Abortion runs pretty much along party lines and is a wash.
 
This is as it should be...as the Constitution says it is and as the Supreme Court has ruled: It is a decision to be made at the state level.
 
Mycroft said:
This is as it should be...as the Constitution says it is and as the Supreme Court has ruled: It is a decision to be made at the state level.
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Kansas already had abortion protections under their state constitution and the left act likes it's some sort of victory.

What the left won't admit is that there are enough states to pass abortions nationwide under a convention of states and congress to make a amendment................ but they would rather act like cowards and keep attacking the USSC instead of raking their own state representatives, congress people, and senators over the coals.

Abortion and immigration are nothing but political playgrounds for the left in DC, and their base laps up whatever they tell them to.
 
Artymoon said:
Ton of threads on this already but I don't know if I'd classify Kansas as deep red. They do have a Democratic Governor.

Abortion will have little to do with the midterms.
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Like I said in another similar thread:
Kansas is a lot more complicated than just simple RED versus BLUE.
 
 
Mycroft said:
This is as it should be...as the Constitution says it is and as the Supreme Court has ruled: It is a decision to be made at the state level.
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Not one of you gives the slightest shit about the constitution, nor do you really understand much of anything you say about it. And of course, you choose to overlook things that are in it, like the right to life, liberty, and property and equal protection of the laws. And then there's the privileges and immunities clause, which should have meat on it but which SCOTUS gutted for entirely different reasons in The Slaughterhouse Cases.

At the end of the day, you're only repeating what Fox/Trump told you to say, and they are only repeating what The Federalist Society told them to say. And what the Federalist Society did was reason backward from a conclusion. Their main mission was to destroy Roe for religious/political reasons.

And because their main mission was to destroy Roe for religious political reasons, every last bit of the supposed legal reasoning behind their position is ahistorical bullshit. It's there because and only because, if SCOTUS accepted it (which it did, once it was infested with enough Federalist Society plants), it would result in completing their religious mission.



This has not been, is not, and will never be about an honest intellectual quibble about the intricacies of constitutional interpretation.

As always, the fake lawyer hats are only there for half-assed bootstrapping.
 
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lwf said:
It didn't in this case.
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It doesn't mean anything. Kansas already protected abortion rights. Try again.

And before you even go there............I'm pro-life but I certainly support a woman's right to abortion.

See........I actually accept opinions that differ from mine unlike the "all or nothing morons" here on Debate politics.
 
"Kansas already protected abortion rights..." and yet Kansas voters (deeply red Republicans most of them) still struck down this amendment that attempted to remove the right to abortion from the state constitution.

What does that tell you?
 
Doesn't most of the country support limited abortion rights? The people will decide.
 
lwf said:
"Kansas already protected abortion rights..." and yet Kansas voters (deeply red Republicans most of them) still struck down this amendment that attempted to remove the right to abortion from the state constitution.

What does that tell you?
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Have you seen the voter demographics from this vote yet?

No.....you haven't and neither have I.
 
BlueTex said:
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Not sure I understand the point of the Tweet.

Why would a voter put in the effort to turn out and then not vote on all the issues?
 
RetiredUSN said:
Have you seen the voter demographics from this vote yet?

No.....you haven't and neither have I.
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What does it matter? It happened in Kansas. It can happen elsewhere too.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Abortion runs pretty much along party lines and is a wash.
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It isn’t a wash among Americans as a whole. The majority support a woman’s right to choose.
 
So heartening to see not everyone has lost their mind in the heartland.
 
Artymoon said:
Ton of threads on this already but I don't know if I'd classify Kansas as deep red. They do have a Democratic Governor.

Abortion will have little to do with the midterms.
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Only because Kansans vividly remember what an unmitigated disaster Sam Brownback was a few years ago.

School days were cut in Kansas because Brownback wanted to create a zero tax Grover Norquist wet dream utopia....unbelievable.
 

Where did you come up with that bullshit?? --

An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification.

The Constitution | The White House

Why a Constitution? The need for the Constitution grew out of problems with the Articles of Confederation, which established a “firm league of friendship”
www.whitehouse.gov
 
lwf said:
"Kansas already protected abortion rights..." and yet Kansas voters (deeply red Republicans most of them) still struck down this amendment that attempted to remove the right to abortion from the state constitution.

What does that tell you?
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It tells me that the Republicans position on this issue isn't nearly as extreme as Progressives would like people to believe. What does it tell you?
 
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