- Joined
- Apr 3, 2019
- Messages
- 22,341
- Reaction score
- 9,893
- Location
- Alaska (61.5°N, -149°W)
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Conservative
The Coronavirus is not in the influenza family of viruses. It is entirely different.
This particular strain of coronavirus is particularly deadly because of its predisposition to causing ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome), which is an acute flooding of the lung with water from leaking blood vessels.
I am betting you have yours
I like bats they eat their weight in bugs every night, I just don't eat them
This is standard doomsday cult behavior. When the end of the world doesn't actually happen, it's attributed to the faith of those who believed it would.
Bats or bugs?
Haven't eaten any bats, would be like eating a mouse. Ate plenty of bugs, spend a lot of time in the woods, including on survival courses, plus I Ride.
Testing, contact tracing and shutdowns limited to "hot spots". To say that SK was capable yet the US was not is nonsense.
I don't think bats scavenge. It would be like eating a squirrel.
All the deaths of one flu season in 5 months and only with stay at home till May 30th...
Flu season is October through March and peaks in December/January, COVID-19 is expected to peak this week and run through June... so basically the same run time and the same number of deaths.
I don't think there will be widespread stay at home through May. As the curve turns down the supplies will get ahead of the crisis and people will start going back to work.
Not much actual meat, plus there is the rabies thing. I'll eat bugs first, not really bad and full off protien. Thinking I will wait on that until the apocalypse before going, besides I live on a lake, food and water are not going to be an issue.
pure speculation that COVID-19 will be seasonal..
Then the model will change and increase the number of deaths...
The first two studies in January were exclusively on Wuhan. They made no death predictions.The initial Imperial College study was published mid-January, COVID-19 had only been discovered in Wuhan the month before.
Good grief, you can't even read your own charts. Again! There were more deaths YESTERDAY ALONE than during the worst week of the worst flu season ever -- and the death rates are continuing to climb.The CDC does say precisely that. All those figures came from the CDC. As does the grand total 12,754 US deaths since COVID-19 was first detected on US shores January 21, 2020. There will not be anywhere near 61,000 deaths with COVID-19 like we had with the influenza epidemic of 2017-2018.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. They prepare vaccines for multiple strains based on early samples and forecasts. They don't just take last year's strain. Egads.We make vaccinations every year for last year's strain of influenza.
Yes, we know. However, we got lucky with SARS, because patients developed symptoms before it became contagious, making it much easier than COVID-19 to detect, track and stop. H1N1 had a mortality rate of 0.02%. The lack of vaccines for SARS and MERS and Ebola, by the way, are (surprise!) part of what makes them potentially so dangeorus.There were no vaccinations for SARS until the year after it came out. There were no vaccinations for the H1N1 virus until the following year. The same will be true with COVID-19.
Hello? McFly? They're getting overwhelmed all over the place, except in nations that severely clamped down. It won't be long before it is your local hospital's turn.I would expect hospitals to be overwhelmed in communist sh*tholes like Italy and most of socialist Europe where their level of medicine is vastly inferior. That is just common sense.
Oh, really? So we don't have enough ventilators not because we weren't prepared, but because people panicked? Everyone is running out of swabs to run the tests, because they freaked out? Prices for medical equipment quadrupled not because every hospital needs supplies, but because people are sheep?Once again, the lack of PPE is directly the result of the media-induced panic. As is all the clearing out of the grocery stores....
Well, someone apparently doesn't run a small business, or knows any of the perhaps 1/3 of Americans who just lost their jobs.....even the panic spending of $2 trillion by a Congress that has completely lost its collective marbles. All that evidence of panic that you choose to refuse to see.
Right, because governments taking actions intended to save you, despite your own bad judgment, now counts as "terrorism."To answer your last question, I take deliberate acts of terrorism by you leftists very seriously and have been advocating that the Democratic Party be classified a terrorist organization under Public Law 107-40.
Incorrect.It is not any different from any other influenza virus, just a different strain.
It is not any different from any other influenza virus, just a different strain. And a predisposition towards ARDS is caused by all influenza viruses, which is why the CDC combines influenza and pneumonia deaths together. Influenza often leads to pneumonia or other pulmonary disorders.
This is standard doomsday cult behavior. When the end of the world doesn't actually happen, it's attributed to the faith of those who believed it would.
Apparently you didn't even read my thread title, let alone the op. I stated: " Latest Covid Trend Charts Confirm - No Worse than Really Bad Flu". Nowhere in my OP or afterwards did I say this is like the common flu. I repeatedly stated that the Covid Trend Charts confirmed that the number of deaths will be on the order of a really bad flu. (Note the focus on trend).And you deserved it too. Claiming this is like a flu is ridiculous. People shut down not just the US but the whole world and still it's more deadly than the flu.
Taking these one by one
- Yes, number of deaths is clearly UNDERstated. A lot of dead people have not been getting CV19 tests.
- I never said you can't trust models - you just have to understand that thanks to Trump's failure in testing, we have limited data and thus models will have large ranges and be subject to change. Yet, they are better than having no models at all. Plus they can rely on data from other countries for some parts of the models (i.e. rate of spread, etc.)
- Yes, we clearly have no idea how many people are infected. If true infection death rate is 0.66%-1% as per some studies, that means we HAD 1.2-1.8 million people infected 2-8 weeks ago.
- I never claimed or heard anyone else claim that "the IHME model assumes 'full compliance'". If someone did, don't lump me in with them.
There are a lot of examples throughout the world that have this settled.
For all the ones that failed on testing (including USA), the earlier the lockdown, the better the curve (and yes, this assume similar population density). This is true at country levels. This is true at State levels (Washington vs NY). This is true at city levels (SF vs LA).
I understand you need to pretend like lockdowns are useless and we'll never know if we needed them but somehow, with exception of countries that had done testing and tracking done well, a LOT of countries, including those that resisted this, have come around to the same conclusion and decided to shut down their economies. Why do you think that is?
Stopping mass gatherings is predicted to have relatively little impact (results not shown) because the contact-time at such events is relatively small compared to the time spent at home, in schools or workplaces and in other community locations such as bars and restaurants.
It is not any different from any other influenza virus, just a different strain. And a predisposition towards ARDS is caused by all influenza viruses, which is why the CDC combines influenza and pneumonia deaths together. Influenza often leads to pneumonia or other pulmonary disorders.
Plenty of people eat squirrels.
I like squirrel, and they are bigger than mice and most bats.
Guinea pigs were bred by the Incas as finger food. I have never had them, but I hear they are tasty.
I'm not making a seasonal argument, I am arguing that the projections see the epidemic ending in early June or late May. If that happens, the COVID-19 cycle will be as long as flu season.
Or not. It almost seems like you'll be disappointed if it ends up being no more deadly than the flu...
Take away New York City, Detroit, and New Orleans and the media wouldn't have much to talk about.
Coronavirus is NOT a different strain of influenza virus. It has a different type of genetic material, structure, and mechanism.
You mean like a cold...a corona virus, right?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?