disneydude
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Where was the decency for their victims?...If they need someone to pull the switch on this scum I will volunteer
The only thing wrong with the death penalty is we don't execute the scum fast enough... If I had my say I would execute any criminal convicted of a capital crime one year from sentencing........None of this 20 year ****.
Where was the decency for their victims?...If they need someone to pull the switch on this scum I will volunteer
The only thing wrong with the death penalty is we don't execute the scum fast enough... If I had my say I would execute any criminal convicted of a capital crime one year from sentencing........None of this 20 year ****.
How about when we execute people who were wrongly convicted? Or whose trials weren't fair? Are you so eager to kill them, too?
Death penalty should be for Terrorist and Murderer only, because if they can take anybody's life, so some one should also have right to give them death
If there is any doubt that the person is guilty then they should not be executed...that goes without saying.....With the arrival of DNA testing the chance of a person who is not guilty getting executed is very small. No system is infallible..If one innocent person is executed out of 1000 its something you live with. Whether you lefties like it or not the death penalty is a deterrent.
"He (his father) wanted to witness the execution for the first time in his life. He got up in the dark to go to the place of the execution at the other end of town amid a great number of people. What he saw that morning he never told anyone. My mother relates merely that he came rushing home, his face distorted, refused to talk, lay down for a moment on the bed, and suddenly began to vomit.He had just discovered the reality hidden under the noble phrases with which it was masked. (he witnessed a beheading)
From Resistance, Rebellion and Death p.175
Concede what? I said I have compassion for all things that suffer. What am I conceding?
If there is any doubt that the person is guilty then they should not be executed...that goes without saying.....With the arrival of DNA testing the chance of a person who is not guilty getting executed is very small. No system is infallible..If one innocent person is executed out of 1000 its something you live with. Whether you lefties like it or not the death penalty is a deterrent.
The debate you challenged me on... never mind.
The when life begins? PM me with an argument as to why I should take part in that debate and then I will. (If that is what you are talking about)
No. The ethical aspects of the Death Penalty that you challenged me on. This is getting ridiculous.
Whether you lefties like it or not the death penalty is a deterrent.
My quote from Camus begins to address one ethical concern of the death penalty. If it is so right to do, if it is just, then why is it hidden away, why is the process not discussed? If it is the right thing to do we should not be afraid to see it. Is it unethical to have public executions?
I don't think that it is unethical to have public executions and one of the issues regarding the DP is that many people are trying to address immorality with morals and it just doesn't work.
Then, why don't we have public executions?
The condemned's immorality vs. the government's morality?
We do have public executions... they are just within confined spaces such as jails or prisons now.
Does anyone know what the cost is for lethal injection?
The appeals system basically eliminates the deterrent. If you want the death penalty to be substantially effective, then you must reduce the scope of appellate rights.If there is any doubt that the person is guilty then they should not be executed...that goes without saying.....With the arrival of DNA testing the chance of a person who is not guilty getting executed is very small. No system is infallible..If one innocent person is executed out of 1000 its something you live with. Whether you lefties like it or not the death penalty is a deterrent.
If there is any doubt that the person is guilty then they should not be executed...that goes without saying.....With the arrival of DNA testing the chance of a person who is not guilty getting executed is very small. No system is infallible..If one innocent person is executed out of 1000 its something you live with. Whether you lefties like it or not the death penalty is a deterrent.
That is untrue. There is an entire book turned into a documentary which details execution procedures in one state.If they are so sure what we are doing is right, if the government is so sure why they are doing is ethical (from a situational view, utilitarian, cultural, authoritarian or any other ethical philosophy) why can't we see it? By hiding it, it seems that it is shameful. The government won't even tell us about the preparation of the prisoner before the execution, when they still used the electric chair they didn't talk about the process either. Why? Because they know it is wrong and because of the public actually knew / saw what happened they would be disgusted and the support for the death penalty would wane.
Yes we do, but the "public" is limited to a special few. Victim's families, attorneys, police involved in the case and families of the one being put to death. My point is that they are not public to the general public who vote for the candidates that support the death penalty, the ones chanting about killing. If they are so sure what we are doing is right, if the government is so sure why they are doing is ethical (from a situational view, utilitarian, cultural, authoritarian or any other ethical philosophy) why can't we see it? By hiding it, it seems that it is shameful. The government won't even tell us about the preparation of the prisoner before the execution, when they still used the electric chair they didn't talk about the process either. Why? Because they know it is wrong and because of the public actually knew / saw what happened they would be disgusted and the support for the death penalty would wane.
Contrary to every study out there. Then again....NP has never let the facts stand in the way of being completely wrong before.
Yes, I have seen the book. It leaves out crucial details such as the difficulty of getting IV's to a good vein because of drug use. It does not explain the fact that the arm is swabbed with alcohol, it's not like he'll get an infection. Ut is to give routine to the execution team so they can think about something wise.That is untrue. There is an entire book turned into a documentary which details execution procedures in one state.
lethal injection protocol
I think you underestimate human nature, both the good and the bad. If what you say is true then there wouldn't be a thousand plus years of documented hangings, beheadings etc etc of which were public and that humans often cheered for those things to happen. And they did so for at least two reasons.
One being the darker side, blood lust. Humans are by nature a blood thirsty race. There has yet to be one single day in documented history where someone, somewhere wasn't killed by another human.
The other side is a sense of justice. People love to see justice being done. Even if they don't see it directly. And for many people the DP is the ultimate form of justice when applied to a serial killer or serial rapist.
The gory details don't matter. If humans were that weak stomached then there would be no such thing as horror movies. No such thing as war movies. No such thing as any violent movie period. Which of course would translate to reality. There would be no murders, rapists, wars etc etc.
As for a sense of shame? Sorry, I feel no shame that a murderer gets the axe or that a rapist gets injected. Nor do I feel a sense of shame in how it is done. IMO neither the electric chair nor lethal injection are near as degrading or painful enough as they should be.
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