DC says no guns allowed during MAGA election protest

[Carleen]

DC says no guns allowed during MAGA election protest

D.C. police are posting notices prohibiting guns downtown ahead of the pro-Trump rally set for Wednesday.

www.fox5dc.com

Are the right wing protestors going to continue to be peaceful or will they bring guns? Time will tell...

Guns have never been allowed at an inauguration so I hope all obey.

 

[TomFitz]

some Proud Boys and others will show up with guns just to show average Joe in Alabama that the Communists are taking his guns and the 2nd will soon be overturned.

and all the average Joes in Alabama and in other states will believe it.



just watch.

And then they’ll trade selfies back and forth and go back to the hotel and watch themselves on Fox.

 

[mrjurrs]

You've answered your own question. Time will tell. Yes, it will. I know that the ultra-left depends on the stereotype of "right wing" protesters as gun toting thugs - which seems to be your agenda - but it may surprise you to know that vast majority of conservative protesters have demonstrated to be a law abiding lot. What I do worry about is ultra left agitators posing as conservatives, intermingling with them and provoking hostilities in an attempt to set them up. Thanks!!

Agenda? A flipping R representative is saying she'll bring a gun.

 

[Logophile]

Agenda? A flipping R representative is saying she'll bring a gun.

That's okay. Whoever it is will more than likely adhere to the restrictions imposed for protesting. Not everything is about apprehension regarding the "other side or those other people." If it were, we wouldn't exist as still a great country. Please don't let the press do to you what it wants so much to do to the public which is rabble rouse. Rabble rousing just causes more headlines which pays the salaries of a lot more masked reporting. But it only works IF those so called reporters can earn your trust by keeping you on alert and listening to THEM, regardless of speculation and self-serving bias. My unsolicited advice is don't listen to all the nonsense, and just sift through it. Eventually - sometimes long after the event - the facts will manage to see the light. Thanks!!

 

[CaughtInThe]

And then they’ll trade selfies back and forth and go back to the hotel and watch themselves on Fox.

...while rubbing themselves.

 

[Lursa]

If they arent DC residents with the appropriate cc permit (dont know if OC is allowed there) then they cant carry firearms. That's the law, protest or not.

 

[Lursa]

§ 7–2509.07. Prohibitions on carrying licensed pistols.

§ 7–2509.07. Prohibitions on carrying licensed pistols. | D.C. Law Library

code.dccouncil.us

(a) No person holding a license shall carry a pistol in the following locations or under the following circumstances:


(1) A building or office occupied by the District of Columbia, its agencies, or instrumentalities;


(2) The building and grounds, including any adjacent parking lot, of an childcare facility, preschool, public or private elementary or secondary school; or a public or private college or university;


(3) A hospital, or an office where medical or mental health services are the primary services provided;


(4) A penal institution, secure juvenile residential facility, or halfway house;


(5) A polling place while voting is occurring;


(6) A public transportation vehicle, including the Metrorail transit system and its stations;


(7) Any premises, or portion thereof, where alcohol is served, or sold and consumed on the premises, pursuant to a license issued under Title 25; provided, that this prohibition shall not apply to premises operating under a temporary license issued pursuant to § 25-115, a C/R, D/R, C/H, D/H or caterer license issued pursuant to § 25-113, or premises with small-sample tasting permits issued pursuant to § 25-118, unless otherwise prohibited pursuant to subsection (b)(3) of this section;


(8) A stadium or arena;


(9) A gathering or special event open to the public; provided, that no licensee shall be criminally prosecuted unless:


(A) The organizer or the District has provided notice prohibiting the carrying of pistols in advance of the gathering or special event and by posted signage at the gathering or special event; or


(B) The licensee has been ordered by a law enforcement officer to leave the area of the gathering or special event and the licensee has not complied with the order;


(10) The public memorials on the National Mall and along the Tidal Basin, and any area where firearms are prohibited under federal law or by a federal agency or entity, including U.S. Capitol buildings and grounds;


Read the full law at the link!

6 is pathetic bullshit. Why not just write, no poor people can conceal carry in DC?

9 & 10 are most specific to the thread.

 

[snakestretcher]

But that is the answer. You may not find it acceptable, but in the US, people carrying guns do it because "they can," and I suspect it is symbolic to them. Eexercising their right to carry arms is probably synonymous with freedom, which I think they cherish. I do not think the overwhelming majority carry arms to do anybody any harm. Thanks!!

I'm equally free but I don't need to walk around with a gun to prove it.

 

[Logophile]

I'm equally free but I don't need to walk around with a gun to prove it.

That's you, and you have a different mindset for a multitude of reasons, not the least because of where you reside. I don't know if Bobbies - not sure of the spelling there - are still unarmed, but I remember when all they had were night sticks. The US is a young country, and it is not threaded together by genetics or a long history. Thanks!!

 

[Luther]

There has been and still may be fed investigation of the various violence at protests in Portland, Seattle et al to determine cause and whom and/or what org is responsible, as there should be with any protest violence of any scale, and as LEO should be observant for in any protest where the possibility of violence is obvious before the protest occurs. We've not yet even gotten answers to the earlier protest violence in question let alone what might occur in the upcoming DC protest.

Guns shouldn't be allowed at any protest.

Guns shouldn't be allowed at any protest.

Wow, Freedom and liberty sure has changed

 

[element94]

My opinion is that there are those in the ultra-left capable of anything. They don't have to infiltrate the Proud Boys per se. That's a little too specific. They just have to scream in conservative protesters' faces things like "racist pigs," and all the rest of the horrible things they yell, and then deliberately start scuffling. It will be a way to try to make the protest into some kind of riot, with the intent on blaming the people protesting the election, in other words, the right. Thanks!!

Yes, of course there's a need to quantify. Are you serious?? If you are resting your case on 70 million people voting for a Republican president and tying those 70 million people to murdering "left protesters," the implications are staggering, and that's what you're doing. So yes, quantify and qualify. Seventy million people are not your enemy. Thanks!!

I quoted your original post to which I responded to show how you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Is screaming in opposing protesters faces, which, let's be clear, both sides are guilty of, even on the same level as murdering opposing protesters, which has been committed multiple times by Trump supporters? Also, have you seen dems threatening and jailed for plots to kidnap and murder government officials like Trump supporters have?

 

[Bonnot]

You've answered your own question. Time will tell. Yes, it will. I know that the ultra-left depends on the stereotype of "right wing" protesters as gun toting thugs - which seems to be your agenda - but it may surprise you to know that vast majority of conservative protesters have demonstrated to be a law abiding lot. What I do worry about is ultra left agitators posing as conservatives, intermingling with them and provoking hostilities in an attempt to set them up. Thanks!!

Oh man you know nothing about the actual left lol. The actual left is armed, and armed pretty well and support owning weapons, to the point they believe in being able to 3D print your own.

They’re not gonna harp on right wingers for owning guns, they’re gonna harp on them for how many of them conduct themselves at protests, which is trying to use those guns as a tool for intimidation by pointing them at people, firing them off in the air, or blatantly shooting at people from their cars as they drive off from a parking structure.


And your fear isn’t warranted, though it is a bit of projection since conservatives have been caught trying to larp as leftists, like last night. Some proud boys, who are on the sameside of the political spectrum as conservative, were walking around in all black trying to infiltrate a possible bloc there, but instead of wearing all black with no labels they wore all black sweatshirts and long sleeve shirts with American flags on the front, because that totally doesn’t stick out.

 

[pamak]

DC says no guns allowed during MAGA election protest

D.C. police are posting notices prohibiting guns downtown ahead of the pro-Trump rally set for Wednesday.

www.fox5dc.com

Are the right wing protestors going to continue to be peaceful or will they bring guns? Time will tell...

I would prefer to use the word 'lawful' instead of 'peaceful', in which case, only stop and frisk will tell...

 

[Logophile]

Oh man you know nothing about the actual left lol. The actual left is armed, and armed pretty well and support owning weapons, to the point they believe in being able to 3D print your own.

They’re not gonna harp on right wingers for owning guns, they’re gonna harp on them for how many of them conduct themselves at protests, which is trying to use those guns as a tool for intimidation by pointing them at people, firing them off in the air, or blatantly shooting at people from their cars as they drive off from a parking structure.


And your fear isn’t warranted, though it is a bit of projection since conservatives have been caught trying to larp as leftists, like last night. Some proud boys, who are on the sameside of the political spectrum as conservative, were walking around in all black trying to infiltrate a possible bloc there, but instead of wearing all black with no labels they wore all black sweatshirts and long sleeve shirts with American flags on the front, because that totally doesn’t stick out.

Okay, so you know, I don't acknowledge Twitter as a legitimate source of information. To your point, I think you are mistaken about the left in general. It is the moderate left as well as the ultra-left calling for gun control. And the proud boy business - if it comes from Twitter - is simply not confirmable and probably not legitimate. Twitter is akin the Tower of Babel. Anybody can post anything, and there is little or no attempt at verification. Thanks!!

 

[Bonnot]

Okay, so you know, I don't acknowledge Twitter as a legitimate source of information. To your point, I think you are mistaken about the left in general. It is the moderate left as well as the ultra-left calling for gun control. And the proud boy business - if it comes from Twitter - is simply not confirmable and probably not legitimate. Twitter is akin the Tower of Babel. Anybody can post anything, and there is little or no attempt at verification. Thanks!!

No, I’m not mistaken. I’m literally friends with people apart of what you call the ultra left, ya know, socialists, communists, Marxist’s Leninists, anarcho communists etc. they are very much not for gun control.

you’re speaking from a position of ignorance and a position of indoctrination.

You think people that in some ways support Marxs train of thought are going to be anti gun when he said this “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”?


That was a journalist that spoke to them. You’re just in denial.

 

[Logophile]

No, I’m not mistaken. I’m literally friends with people apart of what you call the ultra left, ya know, socialists, communists, Marxist’s Leninists, anarcho communists etc. they are very much not for gun control.

you’re speaking from a position of ignorance and a position of indoctrination.

You think people that in some ways support Marxs train of thought are going to be anti gun when he said this “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”?


That was a journalist that spoke to them. You’re just in denial.

Biden does have a record, and a plan, in favor of gun control. In the 1990s, he was a top Democrat in getting both federal background checks and a 10-year assault weapon ban enacted. Biden has often boasted that he has “taken on the National Rifle Association (NRA) on the national stage and won — twice.”

As part of his presidential campaign, Biden introduced a sweeping gun control plan that includes universal background checks, an assault weapons ban, more resources toward the enforcement of existing gun laws, a public push for the development of “smart guns,” and incentives for states to adopt “red flag” laws, which let courts confiscate guns from people deemed a risk to themselves or others and develop gun-licensing systems. https://www.vox.com/2020/8/20/21377041/joe-biden-gun-violence-plan-dnc-democratic-convention

Here's another source:

The 2020 Democratic presidential candidates are far more forceful and united on gun control than their predecessors, endorsing a wide range of policies that past nominees sidestepped or rejected, according to a New York Times survey of the 19 campaigns.

The political terrain on guns has been shifting for several years in response to a seemingly unending series of mass shootings and a newly emboldened network of advocacy groups. Policies that were dividing lines among Democrats have become baselines, and proposals that were politically untouchable are now firmly on the table.

All 19 candidates support an assault weapons ban. The biggest disagreement: whether people who already own those weapons should be required to sell them to the government, or simply given the option to do so. There is also some support for a federal gun registry, an idea that many Democrats used to dismiss exasperatedly as gun-lobby scaremongering. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/democrats-gun-control.html


Now, would you concede that Biden was elected primarily with moderate and ultra left votes?? If so, that would make gun control part of the left agenda. Admittedly, I'm not familiar with Vox from which I quoted, but it seems legit. The other is the obvious left leaning NY Times. Thanks!!

 

[Utility Man]

DC says no guns allowed during MAGA election protest

D.C. police are posting notices prohibiting guns downtown ahead of the pro-Trump rally set for Wednesday.

www.fox5dc.com

Are the right wing protestors going to continue to be peaceful or will they bring guns? Time will tell...

Gald these people weren't allowed to bear arms there.