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Cyber Ninjas misses deadline to send information about its procedures to Congress

Brack said:
Certified election auditors were involved with the previous two audits. State Senator Fann really wanted uncertified election auditors such as the Cyber Ninjas and Cyfir to compromise Maricopa County voting machines and equipment.
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Sadly it's entirely possible.
 
after all the crazy crap that has happened with the Ninjas and the Trump Republicans in AZ, i still have a hard time not laughing when i see "Cyber Ninjas, Inc" on letterhead.
 
BlueTex said:
As someone with a degree in computer science (not an IT degree), I can say with some authority that what Cyber Ninja's are doing has NOTHING to do with computer science...
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so checking electronic voter machines and their software and security has NOTHING to do with computer science?

You should return that degree.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
so checking electronic voter machines and their software and security has NOTHING to do with computer science?

You should return that degree.
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LMAO.... You clearly have no idea the difference between computer science and an information technology degree.....
 
BlueTex said:
LMAO.... You clearly have no idea the difference between computer science and an information technology degree.....
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I really don't care which term you prefer. They both use science in my mind.....i mean....idk why you WOULDN'T use science in IT but, there you go.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
I really don't care which term you prefer. They both use science in my mind.....i mean....idk why you WOULDN'T use science in IT but, there you go.
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IT is the recipient of the work computer scientists do..
 
BlueTex said:
IT is the recipient of the work computer scientists do..
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ok so they're not researchers, fair enough. ANY sort of job in the tech field, you have to have SCIENCE. maybe more than others, sure. But you telling me that cyber ninjas doesn't NEED to backup their conclusions with science, really? Is there a vast number of hackers out there who are using God to crack open passcodes? cmon.....

and i'm not saying anything may happen from this. I was always bearish about these audits, but consider that the topic is NOT about searching and seizing personal property, and instead, concerns property and equipment owned by the state, I think it's a tad ridiculous to tell a state "hey, you can't check what's underneath the hood of your own election process". If you truly don't think there's any problems with the result, then put your money where your mouth is, and encourage these audits because they will CERTAINLY, by your logic, find nothing.
 
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DarkWizard12 said:
Do you really think it's impossible for a report that is entirely based on science....computer science...to be independent of whatever private opinions of the people who conduct? Like really, should we kick out studies by every scientist who believes in Judaism, Islam, or christianity?
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In the case of Cyber Ninjas audit and the report that they are producing how did you determine it to be "entirely based on science.. computer science"?
- Logan misrepresented the information from the V32 and V33 files.
- Logan or CyFir claimed data was deleted form the hard drives. Amazing once the array was configured properly the data as there.
- These are just two examples on misleading the public.

In a more generic situation a report that is "entirely based on science...computer science" can be unbiased and free of personal opinion.

Please provide an example of a scientist who believes (pick a religion) who's paper is based entirely on science is biased with personal opinion
 
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