• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Crump wants inquiry of 215 people buried in county pauper’s field

roguenuke

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 6, 2007
Messages
72,155
Reaction score
35,958
Location
Rolesville, NC
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Moderate
I know I shouldn't be surprised by this but WTF?!?

Crump wants inquiry of 215 people buried in county pauper’s field – Jackson Advocate

Civil rights attorney Ben Crump issued a clarion call for justice on behalf of the relatives, friends, and close associates of 215 people buried in the
jacksonadvocateonline.com

The name, age, race, birth and death dates were included
for all 672 listed in the coroner’s records. In many cases, burials were consigned to Pauper’s
Field because the families could not pay the costs of burial services. Attorneys Crump and Dennis Sweet of Jackson called for a full review of all 672 cases Wednesday.

They knew who these people were (at least most of them), who their families were (for most of them) and they didn't notify any next of kin before burying them.
 
Good grief, they actually call it Pauper's Field? That's cold.

Had to read to see if this was modern day America, rather than some 18th century thing. Yep, huge WTF from here, too, bud... this feels like it should be in a Dickens novel or something.

I'd have to believe there are worse places to fall on hard times, but America sure feels like it's near the top of the list.
 
We are special…….exceptionalism, don’t ya know …….
 
Rexedgar said:
We are special…….exceptionalism, don’t ya know …….
Click to expand...
Man! Even up here, if you die penniless, the government at least provides enough funding for a cremation and a meh urn.
 
OlNate said:
Man! Even up here, if you die penniless, the government at least provides enough funding for a cremation and a meh urn.
Click to expand...
Yeah, but the first thing I thought of when I read it was did the government here, or the church, notify the parents of those Native kids in unmarked graves at residential schools?
 
It's mentioned in the article above, but this is what was the catalyst for checking on this and it is just awful.

‘It ain’t over yet,’ says mother of JPD accident victim buried in pauper’s grave despite having an ID

Dexter Wade's mother wants to know why he was buried in a pauper's grave after he was fatally struck by an off-duty JPD officer.
mississippitoday.org

This one sounds like an intentional coverup.

Why are they not investigating these homicides and deaths? Yes, I get that some of them are likely overdoses or accidents or suicides, and those should have their families informed too, but there are several that are almost certainly murder or manslaughter situations. All these need to be investigated and these officers, government officials need to be held accountable and stop charging these parents, relatives for their mistakes, or worse, coverups.
 
Some family members said they were surprised when they learned that they have to “buy back” the remains of their loved ones in order to give them a proper burial in a better graveyard.

WTF?!?
 
OlNate said:
Yep, huge WTF from here, too, bud... this feels like it should be in a Dickens novel or something.
Click to expand...
"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"
Binary_Digit said:
Some family members said they were surprised when they learned that they have to “buy back” the remains of their loved ones in order to give them a proper burial in a better graveyard.
Click to expand...
Now that's just full blown ****ed up.
 
Yeah. You have a paupers field so people who nobody cares enough about to pay for a funeral can have a proper burial, that’s a good thing
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yeah. You have a paupers field so people who nobody cares enough about to pay for a funeral can have a proper burial, that’s a good thing
Click to expand...
Did you read the articles?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yeah. You have a paupers field so people who nobody cares enough about to pay for a funeral can have a proper burial, that’s a good thing
Click to expand...
Why do they need their own field? Are the regular cemeteries full, or is it classist thing? And why stop at calling it a pauper's field? Why not just call it broke ass field? Worthless meadow? Why not just "the dump"?

Sorry, i don't get this concept at all... maybe we're spoiled up here, i dunno, but this seems really gross.
 
OlNate said:
Why do they need their own field? Are the regular cemeteries full,
Click to expand...
You need to buy a plot in a “regular” cemetery since most cemeteries are private and generally run by trust funds for maintenance
OlNate said:
or is it classist thing?
Click to expand...
Class is real and exists, if you’re low class you don’t get nice things like upper class people
OlNate said:
And why stop at calling it a pauper's field?
Click to expand...
Because that’s the correct name for it
OlNate said:
Why not just call it broke ass field?
Click to expand...
Because that’s not the proper term
OlNate said:
Worthless meadow? Why not just "the dump"?
Click to expand...
Because it’s called the paupers field
OlNate said:
Sorry, i don't get this concept at all... maybe we're spoiled up here, i dunno, but this seems really gross.
Click to expand...
You probably just burn the cadavers of paupers which is immoral as it denies them their body for the resurrection
 
OK.. agree to disagree i guess. Things got a little weird for me with the whole immorality of cremation bit, not gonna lie, i think that's my cue not to die on this hill with ya bud... hehe
 
OlNate said:
OK.. agree to disagree i guess. Things got a little weird for me with the whole immorality of cremation bit, not gonna lie, i think that's my cue not to die on this hill with ya bud... hehe
Click to expand...
Yeah so you think we should burn paupers and not give them a proper burial
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It destroys the body, and is an anti-Christian act
Click to expand...
Death and decomposition destroys the body, resulting in purification and skeletonization. Besides, since you do not know the religious belief, fealty, wishes of, and least of all being legal next of kin of the deceased, it is not your place to dictate how a corpse should be disposed of. Cremation is more practical and economical.
 
Last edited:
... a proper burial in a better graveyard ...
Click to expand...
^ something sought by people who cared so much they did not know the whereabouts of their kin

this is nothing more than crump making another pass at accessing public money
 
roguenuke said:
I know I shouldn't be surprised by this but WTF?!?
Click to expand...
Well. it is Mississippi.
Even the illustrious citizens of Alabama look down their noses at Mississippi.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yeah so you think we should burn paupers and not give them a proper burial
Click to expand...
Sure bud, that's what i said... lol

Out of curiosity, what prompted this response? I disengaged politely, why the snark? Just asking in case you thought i was being an asshole for some reason, I'd love the feedback if you care to give it. I backed out when our chat took a religious turn, as I'm slow to debate religion. Did you feel like my response warranted the snark and misrepresentation, and if so why? Genuinely curious... I'm trying to be a little less fighty these days.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Menu
Log in
Register
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…