I would imagine we have two years more of the same. Although If the GOP did win the senate and convincingly win it. I mean pick up 8-10 seats and turn a 55-45 minority into a 55-45 majority. Perhaps the president might finally decide to reachout across the aisle ala Clinton did, Reagan did to O'Neal etc. Nah, just day dreaming.
Yeah - that's not who I think he is. Would love to be proven wrong, but.....
I would imagine we have two years more of the same. Although If the GOP did win the senate and convincingly win it. I mean pick up 8-10 seats and turn a 55-45 minority into a 55-45 majority. Perhaps the president might finally decide to reachout across the aisle ala Clinton did, Reagan did to O'Neal etc. Nah, just day dreaming.
Cloward Pevin .....overload the system.
I would imagine we have two years more of the same. Although If the GOP did win the senate and convincingly win it. I mean pick up 8-10 seats and turn a 55-45 minority into a 55-45 majority. Perhaps the president might finally decide to reachout across the aisle ala Clinton did, Reagan did to O'Neal etc. Nah, just day dreaming.
Yesterday the video came out of four black men dumping on Obama and the DNC and at the same time yet another crowd of mostly blacks start walking out in the middle of his speech. This guy has made everyone hate him. Hope and change is now screw this clown.
"As President Obama spoke this evening in Wisconsin, the crowd began to file out. Here's video that captures some folks leaving, even as Obama's voice can be heard in the background:"
Crowd Begins to File Out While Obama Speaks in Wisconsin | The Weekly Standard
That is laughable. The GOP is not trying to work with the President and you know it. All the Repubs are scared to even be seen shaking his hand because they will be labeled a RINO. But I'm sure you guys are smart enough to realize this right?
By the way this house is one of the worst in history. Boehner is no O'Neal. This congress will be horrible long after Obama. I don't understand why you guys think this congress is normal.
but they would vote for him again in a heart beat
What successful president's did the day after they took office is reach across the aisle to find someone they could work with. Eisenhower did so with LBJ who was then Senate Majority Leader. JFK and LBJ reached across to Everit Dirksen, then senate minority leader. Reagan and O'Neal, Clinton continuing calling Republicans all the time. This president didn't do that, during his first two years he didn't need to. He really didn't need one Republican vote and perhaps that set the tone. By the way, it is the president who reaches across first, not the other side regardless of party.
As for this congress, I agree, it is not normal. It is the most divided ideological that we ever had. By that I mean the difference in ideology between the House, far right and the Senate far left. Here, read this:
The House And Senate Are the Most Divided They’ve Been in Our Lifetimes | FiveThirtyEight
There is a very good reason for this, the huge divide in congress. For the first time in modern political history we had two sea change or sea tide elections almost back to back. The first one happened in 2006 when the Democrats took control of congress. The Republicans that year lost 6 senate seats and 33 house seats, most of the Republicans the Democrats beat were moderate Republicans as is normally the case. Then in 2010 the Republicans won back the House, winning 63 Democratic seats, a lot of those seats went to tea party members at the expense of what was termed blue dog Democrats, moderate Democrats and the GOP also picked up 6 senate seats with the same ideological results. Thus we have what we have. A far right house, a far left senate with no compromise or give and take in either. Those members who facilitated compromise are gone. Only the hard core remain.
there are other reasons, but two sea change election basically in a row deleted the moderates from congress.
His first term he tried to to reach out to republicans, but the more moderate GOP were terrify to even be seen walking near the President.
His first term he tried to to reach out to republicans, but the more moderate GOP were terrify to even be seen walking near the President. The Tea Party turn into a Political hit squad purdging all moderates from the party. Thats why a number of long term serving republicans left office. Also, Remember Boehner talking about he got 99% of what he wanted? He couldn't have got that without Obama convincing the Democrats to come along. Most of the Bush tax cuts stayed intact. In fact many of the democratic leaders were getting piss off at him because they felt he was caving too much to the republicans.
By the way, it was the right that campaign on "compromise was a dirty word". That was the battle cry in 2010. So how do you reach out to someone who wants to cut your hands off at the first opportunity.
When? Hell, the President doesn't even do a good job of reaching out to Democrats.
During his first Term the President invited the Republicans who wanted to work with them to what he led them to believe was going to be the speech where he adopted the Simpson-Bowles recommendations and used that as a springboard to show how he was the moderate, and they needed to work with him, etc,. and instead turned it into a diatribe where he accused them of wanting to kill off children with downs syndrome and everybody's Grandmother. At no point am I aware of any major effort by the President to work with Republicans.
Am I the only one who saw people simply walking? Not sure if they are leaving or late arrivals but that video in the op doesn't show anyone actually leaving only walking in front of some bleachers.
Am I the only one who saw people simply walking? Not sure if they are leaving or late arrivals but that video in the op doesn't show anyone actually leaving only walking in front of some bleachers.
Yesterday the video came out of four black men dumping on Obama and the DNC and at the same time yet another crowd of mostly blacks start walking out in the middle of his speech. This guy has made everyone hate him. Hope and change is now screw this clown.
"As President Obama spoke this evening in Wisconsin, the crowd began to file out. Here's video that captures some folks leaving, even as Obama's voice can be heard in the background:"
Crowd Begins to File Out While Obama Speaks in Wisconsin | The Weekly Standard
I wouldn't be surprise if these people were not planted as well. Think about it. Would you come and see somebody speak if you were tired and frustrated with them? Trust me, I know my people. If we are the slightest not interested, we are not going. I wouldn't be surprise if this was planned to get TV coverage.
No, I wouldn't.
You do know that the republican led house voted Simpson-Bowles down right?
If he didn't work with republicans, what was Boehner talking about when he said that he got 99% of what he wanted?
Obama caved into GOP Debt Ceiling demands on the first time around, breaking his pledge to end the Bush tax cuts. The GOP try it a second time and it blew up in GOP face. I don't care what side is President, The debt ceiling should not be use as a political weapon.
Also, if he wasn't trying to work with republicans, how did we end up with Romneycare instead of a single payer system?
Most democrats didn't like the ACA. but Obama, Reid, and Poloeski worked hard to get them to vote on it. What was amusing/frustrating is that the law was made pretty toothless to satisfy demands from the GOP, and then after they got what they wanted, they voted against it anyway.
Yesterday the video came out of four black men dumping on Obama and the DNC and at the same time yet another crowd of mostly blacks start walking out in the middle of his speech. This guy has made everyone hate him. Hope and change is now screw this clown.
"As President Obama spoke this evening in Wisconsin, the crowd began to file out. Here's video that captures some folks leaving, even as Obama's voice can be heard in the background:"
Crowd Begins to File Out While Obama Speaks in Wisconsin | The Weekly Standard
Am I the only one who saw people simply walking? Not sure if they are leaving or late arrivals but that video in the op doesn't show anyone actually leaving only walking in front of some bleachers.
They could be late arrivals, stretching their legs, going to the bathroom, getting a beer, going back to their seats. But you can make a video say just about anything you want it to say.
Yup, it's election season.
A dozen people idling at the far back of the auditorium = crowd running away from Obama.
Lulz.
The crowd was subdued and as you said people idled at the back of the room and then walked out.Try as you might you just can't put a good spin on that
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