CPD: No charges for man with concealed carry permit who fired at armed male

[ChezC3]

A 53-year-old South Austin man with a valid concealed carry permit was able to shoot at two men who tried to accost him outside of his home early this morning.

Cops: No charges for man with concealed carry permit who fired at armed male - chicagotribune.com

Interesting in a sad sort of way, that CPD spent more time worrying if the victim was "legally" allowed to defend himself rather than immediately hunting down the culprits...

But this time last year the 53 yr old victim might have been dead.

A step in the right direction, I suppose...

 

[Lutherf]

Well it's good to know that they thoroughly investigated the guy who defended himself. You damned sure don't want just anybody running around resisting assault, robbery and battery.

 

[Wiseone]

Cops: No charges for man with concealed carry permit who fired at armed male - chicagotribune.com

Interesting in a sad sort of way, that CPD spent more time worrying if the victim was "legally" allowed to defend himself rather than immediately hunting down the culprits...

But this time last year the 53 yr old victim might have been dead.

A step in the right direction, I suppose...

How do you figure that? There's nothing in the story to support that statement. When you fire a gun at someone and then stick around to give a statement, as you should if its at all safe, then the police will determine from your story which is also part of the investigation into the people you fired at they can use that information to determine whether or not your actions warrant further investigation. The police have an obligation to both take your statement as well as make a determination as to whether or not you should be charged with a crime as well, it would be pretty poor police work to always believe the person you're talking to after all right?

Anyway I don't know what you're complaining about, its made up anger based on nothing.

 

[ChezC3]

How do you figure that? There's nothing in the story to support that statement. When you fire a gun at someone and then stick around to give a statement, as you should if its at all safe, then the police will determine from your story which is also part of the investigation into the people you fired at they can use that information to determine whether or not your actions warrant further investigation. The police have an obligation to both take your statement as well as make a determination as to whether or not you should be charged with a crime as well, it would be pretty poor police work to always believe the person you're talking to after all right?

Anyway I don't know what you're complaining about, its made up anger based on nothing.

The only one displaying anger is you. Working damn hard at it too... but I think I have a better handle on how the CPD run things than you...

 

[Wiseone]

The only one displaying anger is you. Working damn hard at it too... but I think I have a better handle on how the CPD run things than you...

Ok, why? You make lots of statements but don't back them up at all.

 

[ChezC3]

Ok, why? You make lots of statements but don't back them up at all.

Why do I think I know more than you about this? Uh, I live in Chicago, I know a lot of CPD, some even are friends. You say you're in KY? So if I were to tell you how Fort Campbell police run things, assuming you've lived there all your life, and you know, you know the men who work there, and you know the way they run their operation, you know your local politicians and more importantly your local politicians know you, and you know the politics involved around this issue and I were to tell you that which you know isn't so -- from the outside looking in it would be extremely arrogant of me to push my suppositions of what I think should have happen as the alternative and correct narrative to you, the native in the know, ya know?

 

[Wiseone]

Why do I think I know more than you about this? Uh, I live in Chicago, I know a lot of CPD, some even are friends. You say you're in KY? So if I were to tell you how Fort Campbell police run things, assuming you've lived there all your life, and you know, you know the men who work there, and you know the way they run their operation, you know your local politicians and more importantly your local politicians know you, and you know the politics involved around this issue and I were to tell you that which you know isn't so -- from the outside looking in it would be extremely arrogant of me to push my suppositions of what I think should have happen as the alternative and correct narrative to you, the native in the know, ya know?

Just living in a place doesn't make you an expert on how the police are run and certainly doesn't give you special insight into a specific insight.

You and I have the same information, and you're drawing conclusions from it that aren't supported by that information

 

[ChezC3]

Just living in a place doesn't make you an expert on how the police are run and certainly doesn't give you special insight into a specific insight.

You and I have the same information, and you're drawing conclusions from it that aren't supported by that information

I never said I was an expert, I said I am in the know, from what I know and who I know. You are not. Therefore you and I do not have the same information.

Take it or leave it. :2wave:

 

[Wiseone]

I never said I was an expert, I said I am in the know, from what I know and who I know. You are not. Therefore you and I do not have the same information.

Take it or leave it. :2wave:

So how do you know they made no attempt to find the person this man shot at and that their questions directed at the person, again very standard police procedure to question the person who calls in a report that they shot at someone, wasn't relevant to finding that guy?

 

[ChezC3]

So how do you know they made no attempt to find the person this man shot at and that their questions directed at the person, again very standard police procedure to question the person who calls in a report that they shot at someone, wasn't relevant to finding that guy?

Now, here's a demonstration of what you make lots of -- Aunt Sally's...

I never said they made no attempt, your argument is fallacious.

and I'm done with you...:bootyshake

 

[Wiseone]

Now, here's a demonstration of what you make lots of -- Aunt Sally's...

I never said they made no attempt, your argument is fallacious.

and I'm done with you...:bootyshake

How did you know they spent more time worrying about the legality of the victim firing his weapon than chasing the guy he fired it at?

 

[Beaudreaux]

Well it's good to know that they thoroughly investigated the guy who defended himself. You damned sure don't want just anybody running around resisting assault, robbery and battery.

I wish you didn't live so damned far away from me. I'm sure we would have a large time drinking a cold one (or four) and charring some meat on the grill beside my pool this summer.

In short... Your posts are one of the reasons I read some the threads I would otherwise skip over.

Keep it up...

 

[Lutherf]

I wish you didn't live so damned far away from me. I'm sure we would have a large time drinking a cold one (or four) and charring some meat on the grill beside my pool this summer.

In short... Your posts are one of the reasons I read some the threads I would otherwise skip over.

Keep it up...

You never know. Once I can get myself unchained from this desk I just might hop in the truck and go sniffing out barbecues from coast to coast!

 

[Beaudreaux]

You never know. Once I can get myself unchained from this desk I just might hop in the truck and go sniffing out barbecues from coast to coast!

Carolina BBQ is the best, and my bar is always open.

 

[Ikari]

Carolina BBQ is the best, and my bar is always open.

Carolina BBQ is the second best. The best goes to Memphis.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Carolina BBQ is the second best. The best goes to Memphis.

I'm glad to hear you think that. It means there will be more Carolina BBQ for me.

 

[USViking]

Cops: No charges for man with concealed carry permit who fired at armed male - chicagotribune.com

Interesting in a sad sort of way, that CPD spent more time worrying if the victim was "legally" allowed to defend himself rather than immediately hunting down the culprits...

But this time last year the 53 yr old victim might have been dead.

A step in the right direction, I suppose...

Don't be ridiculous.

The police have a duty to confirm that anyone who fires a previously concealed gun at someone else at least had a permit, and the article says the police were searching for the two culprits, anyway. This is the kind of something-out-of-nothing bull**** that makes gun ownership advocates look like they have a few screws loose.

 

[CRUE CAB]

don't be ridiculous.

The police have a duty to confirm that anyone who fires a previously concealed gun at someone else at least had a permit, and the article says the police were searching for the two culprits, anyway. This is the kind of something-out-of-nothing bull**** that makes gun ownership advocates look like they have a few screws loose.

oh bs.

 

[Capster78]

I agree completely with many other posters here that anytime a firearm is discharged, it warrants an investigation. Weather it be a firearm discharged by a citizen or a police officer. Weather it be an obvious (or what may only seem to be obvious) self defense incident, or not.