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I like that plan, except I'd modify it to exclude children and ugly women. :lol:
Why not look at Canada's overall immigration policies and Canada's history of diversity and inclusion before we begin throwing rocks at Canada? In fact, don't we have enough to work on here in the United States?
I don't understand our national penchant for ****ing with every other country on earth.
Actually, if you bothered to keep up with my posts, I posted 2 links in regards to terrorism and refugees. I never claimed feminism is a terrorist movement, that's what we call a straw man ��
If you've bothered to look you'd see your zipper is open.
Have you seen photos and video of refugees flooding into Europe? Pretty much nothing but young single males with a few women and children sprinkled in. Canada doesn't need that nightmare.
We will first look at Cruz’s comment. Cruz is referring only to 850,000 refugees and migrants — not all from Syria — who have tried to enter Europe by crossing the Mediterranean Sea. About 62 percent of them are men, according to the U.N., not 77 percent, as Cruz said.
More important, they are just a subset of the total Syrian refugee population of more than 4.2 million.
It actually was at that moment. :usflag2:
Your post makes no sense. Say it another way.
Yeah, I don't enjoy cherrypicking.
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
What's your point?
I didn't understand what you were saying. What? You don't understand that?? It wasn't a trick question.
Even at 62%, that's a huge discrepancy. Why 62% men as opposed to 38% women and children? Do you see that ratio anywhere else? Simple fact remains, there are too many single men of fighting age in the Syrian refugee group that is fleeing into Europe. I presume the numbers are much different in the refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey and other Middle Eastern neighbouring countries and thankfully that's where Canada will be getting it's compliment of 25,000.
I'm simply pointing out that the position held by Canada, and the positions held by those who oppose bringing Syrian refugees here are not even close to being the same. Canadians as a whole have opened themselves up to these refugees and they're grappling with how to best accommodate them. The US debate is on letting them. Pointing at what Canadians (a nuanced approach with the ultimate goal of incorporating the refugees into their society) are doing to prove how right those who have flatly opposed to the refugees coming here (and let's face it, that really is the position of Christie, Carson, Trump, Cruz etc) is kind of silly.
Men are targeted by ISIS more often. It seems logical that men would be the ones who'd be most likely to flee while women and children would stay. It's usually what happens when there is an invading force using forced conscription. Men flee into the woods, deserts, etc in higher numbers. That said, it's impossible for us to know why there exists a discrepancy without a census Syrian population. At least, one that isn't from the early 2000s (that's when their last census was taken). It may have been that men already outnumbered women before the crisis substantially (the last census suggests 106 men per 100 women). Likewise, poverty may be an issue. In Muslim countries, women and children tend to be consistently among the poorest. That may cripple their ability to actually leave Syria. Men, being the ones with jobs and income (whether single or married) seem to have higher economic possibilities and thus would have an easier time leaving Syria.
Thank you, Mr. Hat. Now I understand. I actually haven't heard much rhetoric from the candidates on this issue. I've formed my opinion from hearing the POTUS speak about it and from our Governor and my own common sense. I heard Obama ridicule concerns on their face. I heard our governor say that he was going to block them coming to Illinois if he could until he heard complete details about the vetting process. My common sense tells me our President is being an arrogant jerk.
Where's THIS from the President?
"Look, we are going to open our door to 10,000 Syrians. These people are coming from war-torn areas of Syria. Forty percent of them are families - husband, wife and children. 20% of them are orphans under the age of 14 years old. 20% are single women and 20 % are young single men between the ages of 17 and 50. We are in process of vetting these people by XYZ. I understand these concerns! Yet I would hope we will do what we've always done -- stand as a beacon of hope and soft landing place for those whose lives are being torn to shreds by this civil war."
Would this be asking too much? To acknowledge the concerns of Main Street? Why is that so hard?
Thank you, Mr. Hat. Now I understand. I actually haven't heard much rhetoric from the candidates on this issue. I've formed my opinion from hearing the POTUS speak about it and from our Governor and my own common sense. I heard Obama ridicule concerns on their face. I heard our governor say that he was going to block them coming to Illinois if he could until he heard complete details about the vetting process. My common sense tells me our President is being an arrogant jerk.
Where's THIS from the President?
"Look, we are going to open our door to 10,000 Syrians. These people are coming from war-torn areas of Syria. Forty percent of them are families - husband, wife and children. 20% of them are orphans under the age of 14 years old. 20% are single women and 20 % are young single men between the ages of 17 and 50. We are in process of vetting these people by XYZ. I understand these concerns! Yet I would hope we will do what we've always done -- stand as a beacon of hope and soft landing place for those whose lives are being torn to shreds by this civil war."
Would this be asking too much? To acknowledge the concerns of Main Street? Why is that so hard?
So you want the president to make the entire thing digestible for you. That's not going to happen. How exactly do you think refugees are vetted when they're not Syrians? How do you think the 70K Bosnians (who engaged in terrorism on both sides of the field) were vetted? [BOLD]I don't think you actually understand the hurdles most of these refugees have to jump through before/during/after they are in the process of getting here and much less the demands made from them once they're here.[/BOLD] I just found it funny that you thought the opinions of Canadians somewhat validates whatever anyone in the US is talking about. The debates in both countries are extremely different.
(Sarcasm, CanadaJohn and others)
Canada's Syrian refugee plan limited to women, children and families - Politics - CBC News
Canada is taking in 25,000 Syrian refugees. No unaccompanied males. Imagine that. How silly...how dispassionate...horrible of them.
Not.
That's really very funny. I got turned back on arrival in Vancouver a couple of years ago because of a DUI I had in 1998. They will take 25000 Syrians, but they won't take me! Oh the irony.
The overwhelming numbers who have been settled in the US and applying to come here are children, women, families.
UNHCR’s data show that 50.5 percent of refugees are women. Females age 18 to 59 make up 23.9 percent of the refugees, while males in that age group make up 21.8 percent.
Now we are going to need 2 walls not just one.(Sarcasm, CanadaJohn and others)
Canada's Syrian refugee plan limited to women, children and families - Politics - CBC News
Canada is taking in 25,000 Syrian refugees. No unaccompanied males. Imagine that. How silly...how dispassionate...horrible of them.
Not.
Now we are going to need 2 walls not just one.
San Bernardino has changed everything.
Our president would disagree with you.
Reference to validate that claim?
Because a well respected organization says something quite different:
Stretching Facts on Syrian Refugees
A difference of only 2.1% is hardly "overwhelming" when talking about the very demographic that is most bothersome to some.
Now, what is your reference to validate the "overwheling" claim please.
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