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steen said:Hmm, I must admit not having heard of that one before. I have only heard of Yuka (sp?) Mountain, which never seemed that good an idea to me.
Sounds good, but not realistic at all. How would you accomplish this? Are we to go back to an agrarian society and life as we did in the 18th century? They had their problems as well. A few hermit types may be able to live like that, but not an entire nation.Mickyjaystoned said:Sorry to sound realistic but i think the biggest mistake modern people make is assuming that the current levels of industrialisation are beneficial and sustainable.
There is no way the world will cope with the ever increasing energy needs of "Democratic" or Industrialised nations, playing with Dragon Power or Nuclear Energy is by far the most backward ill concieved notion of progress around today, to think that we must harness the earths most powerful energies in order survive is redundant, these energies already exist within our earth, they are already working to create energy meridians around our planet, which will give a natural rejuvenating flow of energy to the natural inhabitants of our physical realm.
To think that the earth is hospitable for our species, it gives us energy through sunlight and fresh foodstuffs and water that are abundant on the surface of our planet, this is the only enrgy we need yet we pursue this notion of progress that will see the earth a desolate and un-diverse wasteland before we make do with what we have.
You want sustainability, forget about alternatives to oil etc, learn how to live without Oil, learn how to live with what you have got, ability to grow items of food, ability to pipe fresh water etc.
Mickyjaystoned said:Sorry to sound realistic but i think the biggest mistake modern people make is assuming that the current levels of industrialisation are beneficial and sustainable.
There is no way the world will cope with the ever increasing energy needs of "Democratic" or Industrialised nations, playing with Dragon Power or Nuclear Energy is by far the most backward ill concieved notion of progress around today, to think that we must harness the earths most powerful energies in order survive is redundant, these energies already exist within our earth, they are already working to create energy meridians around our planet, which will give a natural rejuvenating flow of energy to the natural inhabitants of our physical realm.
To think that the earth is hospitable for our species, it gives us energy through sunlight and fresh foodstuffs and water that are abundant on the surface of our planet, this is the only enrgy we need yet we pursue this notion of progress that will see the earth a desolate and un-diverse wasteland before we make do with what we have.
You want sustainability, forget about alternatives to oil etc, learn how to live without Oil, learn how to live with what you have got, ability to grow items of food, ability to pipe fresh water etc.
Scarecrow Akhbar said:They'll probably use a slogan like "from each according to his means, to each according to his needs". That seems to be the latest mantra of the elitists.
UtahBill said:That would work, if, and only if, human nature undergoes a drastic change. And since that hasn't happened much during the few thousand years of history that we think we know something about, I am not holding my breath.
The ruling elite that we have now seems to think that they somehow deserve a much better lifestyle than the rest of us, and I don't see that situation getting any better, either.
One thing I would like to see is people with degrees in science having an input on our energy policies, instead of getting some political appointees who only took general science in the 8th grade.
Hey, it could happen...:lol:
Sounds good, but not realistic at all. How would you accomplish this? Are we to go back to an agrarian society and life as we did in the 18th century? They had their problems as well. A few hermit types may be able to live like that, but not an entire nation.
Unfortunately, the agrarian utopia generally is a starvation model.Mickyjaystoned said:To think that the earth is hospitable for our species, it gives us energy through sunlight and fresh foodstuffs and water that are abundant on the surface of our planet, this is the only enrgy we need yet we pursue this notion of progress that will see the earth a desolate and un-diverse wasteland before we make do with what we have.
You want sustainability, forget about alternatives to oil etc, learn how to live without Oil, learn how to live with what you have got, ability to grow items of food, ability to pipe fresh water etc.
Wow. Practically Malthusian.Mickyjaystoned said:
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