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The cop has no idea what those kids were doing or what their intention was. Completely justified as I've heard many use of force experts indicate.
Probably best not to aggressively approach a cop in the middle of a tense situation that is just barely under control and required more cops being called to be placed under control.
Cop was justified, IMO. Kids were being aggressive and threatening.
The kids didn't belong there and should have stayed in their own part of town. McKinney is an affluent suburb and I'm sure the locals didn't want a bunch of fighting, rowdy teens who clearly aren't from there causing a ruckus
See now that makes a tiny bit more sense. The host invited mostly black people to her event. Then seperate people crashed it. And everyone just decides to blame ALL the darkies. Like all black people are instantly on the same team.
I think what this really comes down to is host threw an open party for ANY and ALL classmates and the white people didint like it. So technically they were invited, just not invited by everyone and not invited properly because she didnt have permission to host (i assume). And everyone was quick to treat all the blacks as a mob whos only goal was to sneak into a place they were not allowed. Even the cavalier cop. You can tell many of the kids were bewildered at the cops actions as they kept saying "whhhhaaattt the ****kk???" as he Paul Blart'd around.
One resident, Benet Embry, a black man, posted on Facebook about the events leading up to the police call. “Look, I LIVE in this community and this ENTIRE incident is NOT racial at all,” Embry wrote. “A few THUGS spoiled a COMMUNITY event by fighting, jumping over fences into a PRIVATE pool, harassing and damaging property. Not EVERYTHING is about RACE. WE have other issues that NEED our attention other flights of made up make believe causes.”
Well, if it was black kids that crashed the party then I figure it would be black kids that got kicked out of the party. At issue is crashing the party, not race.
Living in Dallas, I have seen a pattern lately of inner city youths coming to affluent areas to hang out. They need to stay in their own neighborhoods. Too often, they come to nice areas and fight each other, are rowdy, listen to rap music, etc. The cops actions were welcomed.
No, at issue is the irresponsible and unwarranted response by Officer Ninja Roll
And the teens in the affluent neighborhoods never fight, get rowdy or listen to rap music, that's astonishing really.
Police should not be allowed to harm anyone when they have "no idea" what's going on. They have an obligation to thoroughly determine the nature of a situation before taking action against anyone.
No, your kneejerk on this is negated by the real members of that community, white and black, who were standing right there helping the officer throughout the whole thing. Of course you don't want to acknowledge what they have to say about the event. It busts your cop hating and race card playing all to hell.
No, at issue is the irresponsible and unwarranted response by Officer Ninja Roll
Your story. The actual residents all say, to a one, that they were, including the fellow who writes a progressive blog and is black himself.
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What? Other civilians who weren't being harassed and threatened by a police officer negate the harassment and threats from that police officer? It would only have been wrong if the officer acted that way towards everyone present?
Clarify, I'm confused.
While the cop in question was being more heavy handed than necessary that doesn't mitigate the need for a police response to begin with. Sometimes when you go looking for trouble it finds you.
No, I'm not buying the lie that you are confused. The ones supporting the officers are the RESIDENTS of the community. You don't care to hear what they have to say simply because it busts your narrative.
Whether or not there was a racial aspect to this is second to the point and a nice distraction from the greater point that we continually are catching police officers acting more like gang punks with guns and badges, then professionals. With there constant sewer mouths, whether there's children or ladies around or not, and using excessive force! This is a problem, and it's getting addressed. In case you missed it earlier in the thread, I pointed out that due to an increase of extra-judicial killings by police in Albuquerque NM, officers there will now be randomly drug tested. Amongst other things, it's believed that there's a problem with cops abusing steroids, and we all know what that can do to a person.
While the cop in question was being more heavy handed than necessary that doesn't mitigate the need for a police response to begin with. Sometimes when you go looking for trouble it finds you.
I really don't care how many people support police misconduct.
Come off it. You don't care a bit about the language used when it's the criminal using it. There are times when foul language has an effect.
And this nonsense about the cops acting like punks is just silly. Some punks organized a crash of a community event in a private community, they had their excuse ready to go. They were destructive little assholes and the police were called.
Oh they do. Wasn't the case here.
The cop didn't harm the two guys. He pulled out his gun, as two guys were coming aggressively at him from the side/back in a tense situation not under control. Those two guys ran off, he put his gun away. It's justified.
This is a maze of a story to navigate. I saw something on an internet blog that gave the breakdown of events. The girl who lived in the neighborhood was organizing a "pool party" without getting permission to use the pool that has limits to 20 guests. She paints herself as a party organizer. They set up beside the pool in a field, and some people were being charged to be there and got upset that they were not able top access the pool when that is what they thought they were getting and then started climbing the fence into the pool area, which resulted in some confrontations and the police being called. This party was organized by the girl in Post #9 of this thread who is playing victim in the video according to the blog I saw that had caps of her social networking sites before she busily started deleting everything that showed she was the organizer of the party. Yes the police was there legitimately and she is the reason for it.
There was someone who was trying to make the police think he had a gun and was drawing on him when the officer was apprehending someone else, so they police officer started drawing his weapon and the person ran away like a little girl. The police officer seeing that he did not have a weapon, then reholstered his. These things are clear. What happened other than that is unsortable.
There are multiple conflicting stories. Anyone of which may be true, none of which excuse the police excess and abuse witnessed in the video.
I saw the video. The officer was out of line.And we circle on back to your self reinforcing bull**** about police misconduct despite the facts.
You have an astoundingly weak definition of "harm" (likely based on whether that harm is happening to you and yours or to someone you can consider "other"). Sitting on a teenage girl is okay, pulling a weapon on kids is okay. Throwing kids to the ground is okay. Police have no business doing anything beyond breaking up a fight they are personally witnessing without sufficient evidence. They definitely don't have any business pulling a weapon against unarmed children.
A police response when things start escalating is good, better before real violence breaks out. The police conduct in this video and so many videos that are out there are being viewed around the world. It's an embarrassment to me, and I suspect I'm not alone in that, and really it's an infraction against the condition of the American democratic system. That said, I'm glad that we have people now with the ability to record this conduct so it can't be denied, and maybe it can be dealt with. And before you jump to anything, I think that most of us expressing our concerns acknowledge that this is the exception and not the norm, we also realize that it's systemic and not anecdotal.
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