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Conversion Therapy Proponent Caught Trolling for Gay Men
Norman Goldwasser is a therapist who likens homosexuality to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and claims his so-called therapy, a regimen rejected by every respected medical and mental health association, can alter one's sexual orientation. That's his daytime schtick. At night the guy "cruises" for sex on a gay dating website.
While I think it ridiculous to attempt to alter people's sexual orientation -- it's not as though there's overt encouragement to be gay, so there's no reason why anyone who isn't gay would seek same-sex partners/romantic relationships and live as a gay person -- the country's laws allow individuals thus inclined to do so. What I have a a bigger problem with is folks singing one tune and dancing to a diametrically opposite one.
Goldwasser is yet another manifestation of the degradation in integrity and honesty we observe throughout our society. While I'm willing to tolerate the existence and expression of a host of ideas, attitudes and behaviors I oppose, I just have no forbearance for hypocrisy presented to abet one's own fortunes or that deliberately dehumanizes others and destroys them by declaring their very being dysfunctional. If one is going to undertake such tacks, one must do so with portfolio and integrity.
Conversion Therapy Proponent Caught Trolling for Gay Men
Norman Goldwasser is a therapist who likens homosexuality to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and claims his so-called therapy, a regimen rejected by every respected medical and mental health association, can alter one's sexual orientation. That's his daytime schtick. At night the guy "cruises" for sex on a gay dating website.
While I think it ridiculous to attempt to alter people's sexual orientation -- it's not as though there's overt encouragement to be gay, so there's no reason why anyone who isn't gay would seek same-sex partners/romantic relationships and live as a gay person -- the country's laws allow individuals thus inclined to do so. What I have a a bigger problem with is folks singing one tune and dancing to a diametrically opposite one.
Goldwasser is yet another manifestation of the degradation in integrity and honesty we observe throughout our society. While I'm willing to tolerate the existence and expression of a host of ideas, attitudes and behaviors I oppose, I just have no forbearance for hypocrisy presented to abet one's own fortunes or that deliberately dehumanizes others and destroys them by declaring their very being dysfunctional. If one is going to undertake such tacks, one must do so with portfolio and integrity.
I too.[Of]....most people who are proponents of conversion therapy or even practitioners [of it] I really do wonder what makes them tick.
It seems to be a psychosis with some of these folks. I think most people who are proponents of conversion therapy or even practitioners are at least to some degree homosexual themselves. The tend to adopt this sort of binge and Purge Behavior. They view it as sort of like an alcoholic slipping up and having another drink.
It's really myopic that they don't see their own psychosis for what it is. I have been there before I've never done conversion therapy but years ago I tried very hard to not be homosexual. And you can go along resisting things until you can resist no longer.
I find it sad more than anything. These people are so desperate to fit into some religion or social structure that they torture themselves. I did it for about 13 years and I have enough. But some of these people hey do it into their fifties and sixties I don't know how they do it.
I guess some people just never grow out of they're very limited religious views. I really do feel sorry for them.
I would love the opportunity to talk to an ex gay person I've never met one I've seen videos and crap on YouTube but I've never actually met a real person from that philosophy.
I really do wonder what makes them tick.
More than one ex-gay came out an ex-ex-gay. They basically said they lied to themselves about it. Remember when two of the founding members of Exodus International ran off with each other?
More than one ex-gay came out an ex-ex-gay. They basically said they lied to themselves about it. Remember when two of the founding members of Exodus International ran off with each other?
Something doesn't smell right here. 60 years ago, homosexuality was listed as a disorder. Most people who stay "old school" aren't closet homosexuals. There may be a few strange examples that fit your premise, but that can't possibly be the rule. People act like history doesn't exist.
Conversion Therapy Proponent Caught Trolling for Gay Men
Norman Goldwasser is a therapist who likens homosexuality to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and claims his so-called therapy, a regimen rejected by every respected medical and mental health association, can alter one's sexual orientation. That's his daytime schtick. At night the guy "cruises" for sex on a gay dating website.
While I think it ridiculous to attempt to alter people's sexual orientation -- it's not as though there's overt encouragement to be gay, so there's no reason why anyone who isn't gay would seek same-sex partners/romantic relationships and live as a gay person -- the country's laws allow individuals thus inclined to do so. What I have a a bigger problem with is folks singing one tune and dancing to a diametrically opposite one.
Goldwasser is yet another manifestation of the degradation in integrity and honesty we observe throughout our society. While I'm willing to tolerate the existence and expression of a host of ideas, attitudes and behaviors I oppose, I just have no forbearance for hypocrisy presented to abet one's own fortunes or that deliberately dehumanizes others and destroys them by declaring their very being dysfunctional. If one is going to undertake such tacks, one must do so with portfolio and integrity.
Something doesn't smell right here. 60 years ago, homosexuality was listed as a disorder. Most people who stay "old school" aren't closet homosexuals. There may be a few strange examples that fit your premise, but that can't possibly be the rule. People act like history doesn't exist.
Again, you don't understand that when you post something like that you are going to get puzzled looks.
(it wasn't a disorder 60 years ago, or 600 years ago, its part of being human)
I'm referring to DSM I and II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders
And......what about DSM III, IV and V?
You should run your posts past someone else before you hit submit.
My point is that homosexuality has been historically treated as a mental disorder. You can agree with the historical approach or not, but as Walter Cronkite used to say "that's the way it was".
Not any more.
Oh, by the way, the earth has been historically treated as flat.
Your silly arguments are really lame.
I still think it doesn't fit that most conversion therapists are closet homosexuals. That premise doesn't pass the common sense test.
They are full self loathing, I see them all time on Grinder. They will hit on me one night, the next morning they are back to making homo jokes with their beer buddies.
I used to take pity on them. no more. Its 2018 if you dont have the gonads and self respect to come out you get no pity from me.
Um - you just slid right by the majority of those who do not come out, but who do not 'make homo jokes' with beer buddies. What can they expect from you? Have we come to stereotype closet cases as nothing but a bunch of nasty conservative hypocrites?
Were did I even mention Conservative ? If you read that in my post how am I at fault ? Actually, I could care less what you think, so please dont judge me until you walk a mile in my shoes.
I haven't. I think you may be misidentifying the problem. Its hypocrisy and cruelty we should be unsympathetic with. people who just choose not to be public about their orientation are harmless and decent and doing nobody dirt by deciding not to reveal their orientation. Its not up to anyone to call their gonads into question or label them as self loathing whether it is 2018 or 1984.
I still think it doesn't fit that most conversion therapists are closet homosexuals. That premise doesn't pass the common sense test.
Red:They are full self loathing, I see them all time on Grinder. They will hit on me one night, the next morning they are back to making homo jokes with their beer buddies.
I used to take pity on them. no more. Its 2018 if you dont have the gonads and self respect to come out you get no pity from me.
Um - you just slid right by the majority of those who do not come out, but who do not 'make homo jokes' with beer buddies. What can they expect from you? Have we come to stereotype closet cases as nothing but a bunch of nasty conservative hypocrites?
Uhm how do I know they self loath, because I was one of them, and I meet them in support group's. Unless you are a gay man you really have no idea what I am talking about.
........who likens homosexuality to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder......
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