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Conservative "White People" are Driven by Envy and Resentment

This is all so simple it eludes people because they think life needs to be more complicated that this. Envy is BS. Not as bad as revenge, but certainly down there. Just don't think about what others have! That's depressing. There are better things to think about. How to be happy:

The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time.

It doesn't take a lot of money, just enough to have the basic needs covered; plus a little for discretionary spending. Money does not equal happiness. Having more money does not make one happier. Envy is a monster that consumes. No matter how much wealth one gets there will always be someone else with more. No matter how impressive one's possessions are, someone else will always have something more impressive. Having impressive possessions does not equal happiness. Enjoying what one does with their life does produce happiness.

Getting impressive possessions might seem cool; but are the possessions to enjoy or are they meant to impress? If they are meant to impress, they will not bring as much pleasure as those things which are meant to enjoy. One can own a really expensive car, but is it really worth spending a lot of money on it if it makes one broke and the greatest pleasure from it comes from showing it off to others? That's kind of shallow and fleeting. After it has been shown off to a person that part is done. Then what? Find another person to show it off to? Quickly, one will run out of people to impress. When that happens, what's the point in having spent so much money for it? Go out and drive it around? Driving is dangerous. Doing it for pleasure is rare. Driving is a PITA, not fun. Your life is being risked to get from one place to another. That's driving. Unless away from most other vehicles; traffic represents danger.

One could derive more pleasure from reading books than driving impressive cars. It is way safer, and much cheaper. One could go fishing. One could play a musical instrument. Learn a craft. Go hiking. Go to a park. Ride a bicycle. Go boating. (Those last two can get really expensive if one gets caught up in it, but it doesn't have to.) Hang out with friends. Go boating on a friend's boat. (By far the best way to go boating.) Take up painting. Become an artist. Write books. Volunteer. Join a club.

Bored at home? Travel. That can be very expensive or done on the cheap. 5 star hotels to tent camping, there is a wide range of experiences available. It doesn't have to take a lot of money.

Whatever one does to enjoy life, it is the enjoyment of the passage of time that is important. Not how much money is spent doing it.

Showing off, impressing others is extremely over-rated. Not really worth the money. Finding things to do that one enjoys, and then doing them. Sharing it with others who also enjoy it. That's the secret. The secret of life.

We only have so many years to live. A finite number of months, weeks, days, hours, moments. One does not have to wait until a certain amount of wealth is achieved to enjoy life. It could be a worker who gets a little time after work to hang out at a local watering hole. Have a few laughs. Be a barfly. If that's what makes one happy that is what they should do. The moments of pleasure are what makes life worth while.

Look at us. We like to discuss politics online. That makes us happy. What does it cost us? Very little. A device. A connection. Maybe a donation if one chooses. We don't have to be billionaires to enjoy coming here. We like to do it, so we do. Some of us just enjoy learning, staying informed, brainstorming ideas. Others want to mess with people. That's a shallow pleasure. A pleasure is best if it doesn't involve hurting or belittling others. It is a guilty pleasure that uses others in order to produce pleasure. It comes with the stress of knowing that the pleasure cost someone else's happiness. Pleasure that doesn't hurt others is guilt-free.

The best pleasure is shared with others and doesn't cost a lot of money. Shared experiences. Stories. Memories. We are all free to find it. If we choose to look for it. If we have the clairvoyance to see the big picture, to see the secret of life as a human on planet Earth is easy to find. We just have to decide what we like and go for it. Don't choose envy. Bad idea. Envy does not produce happiness. Envy is to be avoided. Seek pleasure and forget about envy. It might help to know that the person one is envying is probably envying someone else. The grass may be greener but it is worth stopping to smell the roses.
 
What a dumb lecture.
 
Rickeroo said:
Correct. What are you trying to show here? That white people are poorer than Blacks, so whites take advantage of social systems more?
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It's number that reflect the fact that when Right Wing and Conservative Republican talk about cutting public services, they blind themselves to the high volume of white people they will plunge into dire consequences, Yet... to many still listen to right wing media and Republican Politicians keep trying to cut, damage and destroy public services, while right wing media push a narrative as if its black people who are consuming the majority of public services.
These numbers simply show who are the highest volume of public service users in this country.
 
coyote505 said:
And, of course, Africans before white contact, never had any warfare of violence between themselves, nor any envy (Rwanda) sarc.
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All people from all cultures have experience warfare of violence between themselves. What is your point here
 
anatta said:
Im seriously not wasting my time with anyone who doesnt understand Biden had a recession, ongoing inflation, and last quarter GDP was was revised up to a flat 2%.
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There was no recession. Is this the new right wing talking point? You didn’t get the recession you needed, so claim it already happened? The last administration had a hand in inflation too. Did you forget that they needed to raise the debt ceiling three times? All before the pandemic in case you want to try to throw that excuse out.
 
Maidenrules29 said:
I'm white but not a conservative. This is absolutely the most idiotic thread I've ever seen on this board full stop.
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Why would you take it literally, rather than perspectively, in knowing that "nothing" ever includes all, it is a reference to "some'.

Must it be rudimentary to put the word "some" before everything?

Each individual knows within themselves if something applies to them or not.
 
Peacenik said:
One can own a really expensive car, but is it really worth spending a lot of money on it if it makes one broke and the greatest pleasure from it comes from showing it off to others?
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An excellent post. Although I have a long way to go with regard to practicing gratefulness, I've cut back on expenses with the motive of investing the difference. I don't consider it a sacrifice.
 

This would be correct if one subscribes to the narrative that the typical republican voter is white and poor, and therefore voting against their own interest when they vote for republicans who want to reduce welfare.

The republican voter makes more money than a democrat voter, and is therefore less effected by welfare reduction and more effected by tax increases.
 
The sad fact is, whiteness was created to support greed and exploitation.
 
Citizen said:
What double standards are your referring to
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Can you believe these people have the audacity to talk about double standards, when they pushed Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court by their own double standards, and they did the same with Gorsuch, and Cavanaugh.


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We don't know the political lean of these people,

*68,790,000*
MORE white people than Hispanic & Blacks Combined live on 80 of their income from Public Services of various sorts
 

"Excellent Commentary" !!!
 
Rickeroo said:
Yes we do. Look up voting patterns by income.
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If you care to do that, when you finish; please share your findings and how you derived at your results.
 
RealityNow said:
If you care to do that, when you finish; please share your findings and how you derived at your results.
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As income grows, households lean more republican

https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-democrats/

An individual’s likelihood of being a Democrat decreases with every additional dollar he or she earns. Democrats have a huge advantage (63 percent) with voters earning less than $15,000 per year. This advantage carries forward for individuals earning up to $50,000 per year, and then turns in the Republicans’ favor — with just 36 percent of individuals earning more than $200,000 per year supporting Democrats.

Interestingly, the median household income in the United States is $49,777 — right near the point where the Democratic advantage disappears and the Republicans take over.

This information is usually supressed by narratives of education level, or red states being poorer than blue states.
 
The links have interesting information, I will say the commentary within the linked info has a lot of variables. The transition points seem to change, but it also depends on the locality of people.

As the info said, the make up of diversity within the ranks of democrats is a factor that deals with lots of varying income levels. As well as population density.

  • ((Democrats have a tremendous amount of diversity in their ranks, especially when compared with the 87 percent white Republican Party.))
    • ((This support is engrained in the culture and cuts across age, income and regional divisions. This support has been longstanding for many decades,))
  • ((If an area has more than 500,000 people, it will go Democrat about 60 percent of the time. The political balance is even in areas with 50,000 to 500,000 people, and then turns decidedly in the Republicans’ favor at population levels below 50,000.))
I would not say Republican are more Religious (Believer's in God) than Democrats, but I will say that Republicans spend in inordinate amount of time to promote their religious dogma narratives.
 


???

Actually if you look at human development from early tribal historical records it’s not much different. Eastern Europe, Western, North Africa, Asia.

Lots of rule by the powerful over the weak. Casts systems. Lots of fear and suspicion of those different than their tribe.

No race or creed have a history notable as being non-subjected to this. We have a commonality in our shared, very human, extraordinarily flawed, societal development.
 
Peacenik said:
One can own a really expensive car, but is it really worth spending a lot of money on it if it makes one broke and the greatest pleasure from it comes from showing it off to others?
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Do you think that most people who buy expensive cars do it to show off? I don't. I think most people buy them for 3 reasons:
1. In the case of expensive high performance cars, they are bought for the sheer thrill of the very quick acceleration and great handling that they provide. In essence, they are very fun to drive.
2. Some people buy an expensive luxury car to treat themselves after they feel they have "made it", ie; recieved that big promotion at work, or their business finally took off and became really successful.
3. Some people buy an expensive luxury car to be chauffeured around in because A. They don't like driving and can afford a chauffeur, B. Are really old and can't drive themselves, and want luxury, and C. They are businesspersons who need to be chauffeured so that they can conduct business in the backseat.

Now, do some people buy expensive cars just to show off? Well maybe a few. But I think the "show offs" are the ones who create crazy-looking cars like intricately painted low-riders with the tiny wire wheels and hydraulics that make them hop and jump, and the "donks" with the crazy huge wheels. That's showing off.
 

Since there are only two parties and a myriad of economic and social issues, people aren't going to fit in neatly into the media-contrived, rigid platform/demographics of a particular party. You're not the only one to think republican voters were poor.

I've gone republican since 1996, primarily based on personal economics. It dissapoints me that republicans tend to drag religion into their platform. I'm equally dissapointed with the democrats bringing race into theirs.
 
Sounds like you're 'clinging' to the past.
 
An interesting racist thread.

It’s just more propaganda and lies.

Hate and division.

All I can say is peace and love people.
 
Your post is hard to follow. Please learn to use the quote functions. Thx
 
John3945 said:
What a dumb lecture.
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Without any clarification, this comment lacks merit.

Life is easy to enjoy. People have a way of making things way too complicated.

It's really all in the way one thinks about it.

 
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