I think this is merely window dressing on the neocons part to garner the support of the so-called "Religious Right." I don't think that the neocons actually give a hoot.Nemo said:A true conservative is for religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution under the Bill of Rights. The Neoconservatives, however, would turn the Constitution upside down and substitute religious dogma for our government of laws. “Jesus is Lord!” they shout. But whose religion will prevail, as history has shown, can only be determined by religious wars, followed by religious persecution. Our founding fathers, whose names the Neoconservatives now take in vain, sought to insure religious freedom through the separation of church and state.
Iraq is a preventive war, not a pre-emptive one.Nemo said:A true conservative is against engaging in foreign entanglements. Our citizens should not be sacrificed on foreign shores but in defense of the nation from attack by our enemies. Nor do the arguments for globalization require that America be engaged in foreign wars. Yet the Neoconservatives have done just that. Worse, they are preemptive wars; wars that are being waged for the sake of private and not the national interests.
Nemo said:A preventive war is like a preventive abortion - neither can be justified but by the dehumanization and death of its victims. To wage war without justification - to attack a nation's peoples without provocation - is dishonorable, for its victory brings not honor, but disgrace. Such nationalistic ambitions cannot be cloaked in the mantle of world leadership, for it is the naked aggression for world dominion; which, as in the case of the Third Reich, will lead rapidly to our nation's destruction.
The peculiarity of omitting Hitler comparisons depends entirely upon some factual inaccuracies.Deegan said:Funny you mention the "Third Reich" but fail to mention the same genocide that was taking place in Iraq.
Well, maybe so. But the saving needed to be done in the early nineties. The Kurds were pretty much just killing each other in the US controlled no-fly zone by the time Team Bush came into office..Deegan said:The Kurds, like the Jews, needed to be saved from a brutal dictator...
Simon W. Moon said:The peculiarity of omitting Hitler comparisons depends entirely upon some factual inaccuracies.
First, it wasn't genocide. It was brutal mass murder. There is a difference.
Second, this invasion of Iraq came a decade too late to stop it. It'd already done been over for quite some time by then.
Third, the international terrorist group that helped carry out the atrocities is now all buddy buddy w/ Team Bush. (Disgustingly enough, IIRC, there's been call fomr civilian Pentagon appointees to fund this international terrorist organization of Saddam Hussein's with US taxpayer's money.) So, I don't think we're supposed to somplaining about this lest we stray into crimethink.
Well, maybe so. But the saving needed to be done in the early nineties. The Kurds were pretty much just killing each other in the US controlled no-fly zone by the time Team Bush came into office..
Perhaps now you find Nemo's omission of Hitler comparisons less "funnny."
Deegan said:Funny you mention the "Third Reich" but fail to mention the same genocide that was taking place in Iraq. The Kurds, like the Jews, needed to be saved from a brutal dictator, if the violence that proceeds this bothers you, turn off your television, and let the brave men and women do the hard work for you.
I also like how you didn't give a source! This is sad that I have to give a source for your post.Columbusite said:Umm, I hate to tell you this but...those weapons that Saddam Hussein used on the Kurds? Well, we kinda gave him those....yeah. Thought he was the lesser of two evils (the other being Iran). We might have been wrong about that. Maybe.
No, you are not correct.Datamonkee said:Quoted from a post by Simon W Moon-
"First, it wasn't genocide. It was brutal mass murder. There is a difference."We are talking about the holocaust, correct?
apparently. I said that the people who, in the past, helped carry out the atrocities against the Kurds is now all buddy buddy w/ Team Bush.Deegan said:Bush was not president in the early 90's, so I am sorry, but I must be missing your point?
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