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But not an exclusive one.
Because saying "God Damn America" is not now nor should it ever be a crime.
They've said far worse, much along the lines of "inciting violence".
I think a lot of what Obama has said has been misunderstood or taken out of context. I don't think he's racist in any way. Wright, on the other hand, is. Just because Obama sat in church for 20 years listening to this man doesn't necessarily mean that he shares his views.
I am aware of Farakhan calling Judaism a "gutter religion".They've said far worse, much along the lines of "inciting violence".
The only one with legally enforced slavery and segregation.
What other reason would he have for sitting in that church listening to that man's views?
One or two sermons--yeah, I'd agree with you. 20 years? No, that's agreement.
More instructively, I don't see where Hannity waited to bounce Turner from his show. Dear Leader waited until everyone was calling him on the carpet to throw first his grandmother then Wright under the bus.
If it was the right thing to do, it should have been done right away. If it was not the right thing to do, it should not have been done at all. In matters of right and wrong, delay is damnation.
Really? You mean those black Africans who sold black African slaves all over the world werent legally enforcing slavery and segregation?
That is only relevant if you are arguing that past racism necessitates future racism, and that the only cure for prejudice is more prejudice.Uhmmm white people do have a long history of racism though.
Really? You mean those black Africans who sold black African slaves all over the world werent legally enforcing slavery and segregation?
I am aware of Farakhan calling Judaism a "gutter religion".
I am aware of Wright's odious polemics against the United States.
I am not aware of either saying "go forth and kill."
Turner said "go forth and kill" and then offered to provide the bullets.
People go to church for their own spiritual beliefs, not necessarily because they believe what one particular preacher's personal and political views are. I've listened to people I don't agree with plenty of times.
Well America created the market for that.
That is only relevant if you are arguing that past racism necessitates future racism, and that the only cure for prejudice is more prejudice.
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People do go to church for their own spiritual beliefs.People go to church for their own spiritual beliefs, not necessarily because they believe what one particular preacher's personal and political views are. I've listened to people I don't agree with plenty of times.
We did? I kind of thought Portugal, Spain, etc, etc were all over that one too.
Or are we gonna go with the public school version of this?
Talk about grasping at straws. :roll:
That's a drop in the bucket compared to black slavery in regards to the white culture in this country.
People do go to church for their own spiritual beliefs.
People go to a specific church because it comports with those spiritual beliefs.
Would you listen to sermons for 20 years espousing beliefs you rejected? Have you counted as a close spiritual adviser for two decades someone whose beliefs you rejected? If yes, then further discussion is pointless. If no, then your personal history is not germane to the point.
There's a bit of a qualitative difference between disagreeing about politics and disagreeing about the propriety of hatred, prejudice, and anger.I'm a member of a Church where Bush is a member as well and the head minister certainly is enamored with Bush. I'm certain most around here would agree that I deeply disagree with Bush's views and consequently disagree with the head ministers POV as well by default.
Why is that grasping at straws?
Did black Africans not sell their own to foreign countries as slaves? If so, are they not as culpable for slavery as any other person or nation?
It takes 2 to tango my friend.
A lot of hands were dirty.
The fact is is the market was here in America.
I'm not saying that they didn't, but to try and use that as a counter balance to 400 years of slavery is a joke.
I am of the opinion that there is less separating political, racial, and spiritual beliefs than you suggest. There is a reason the most potent moral voices impacting the political landscape of this country have been members of the clergy.We are talking about his political and racial beliefs here, not his religious views. Just because I don't agree with someone in those areas doesn't mean that we wouldn't agree on a spiritual level if we had the same religious beliefs. Though, it would really be difficult to gauge as I only went to church for a very short period of time when I was young.
There's a bit of a qualitative difference between disagreeing about politics and disagreeing about the propriety of hatred, prejudice, and anger.
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