disneydude
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Jesus taught nothing about picking and choosing who to sell something to.
Obviously you do not know much about him or his silly book
The religious freedom argument is undermined when you are applying your "religious" beliefs selectively.
And yes, actually, once you're a business that holds out to the public, you don't have the same rights as an individual. The first amendment is not blanket authorization to ignore any law you claim to oppose. If I run a restaraunt and really, truly believe that all illness is the will of God, can I be exempt from food safety laws?
You know as much about the bible as you do about the Constitution.
Every person with a religion applies their beliefs selectively and yes the first amendment protects the right to do so.
Which is more than you.
Still waiting for the clause you refuse to cite.
Within the confines of their own personal life. It doesn't protect their right to discriminate once they open themselves up to the public.
So, yes, you do believe the US justice system should rule if a person has effectively proven that they are following the edicts of their religion before being able to cite it as a defense in court. Is this accurate?The religious freedom argument is undermined when you are applying your "religious" beliefs selectively.
Where does it say a business can't refuse service to someone based on sexual orientation?And yes, actually, once you're a business that holds out to the public, you don't have the same rights as an individual. The first amendment is not blanket authorization to ignore any law you claim to oppose. If I run a restaraunt and really, truly believe that all illness is the will of God, can I be exempt from food safety laws?
You obviously cannot read then....go back and read......or do you still believe that there is nothing about "Equal Protection" in the Constitution.
Oh...let me save you the trouble. Article 14, sec 1. You might want to read it...then you might not make such a silly claim.
So, yes, you do believe the US justice system should rule if a person has effectively proven that they are following the edicts of their religion before being able to cite it as a defense in court. Is this accurate?
Where does it say a business can't refuse service to someone based on sexual orientation?
There's a difference in doing something that involuntarily harms the public and something that doesn't. As I stated to disneydude, if a business is playing music too loud at night, throwing trash in the streets, or as in your example, not following food safety laws, that's a danger to the public. Not making a cake hurts no one.
Sorry...but if a bigot says that their "religion" or their "moral beliefs" prevent them from serving black patrons at their lunch counter....the law does not protect them. You might want it to be otherwise, but the Constitution does not allow it.
So, yes, you do believe the US justice system should rule if a person has effectively proven that they are following the edicts of their religion before being able to cite it as a defense in court. Is this accurate?
Where does it say a business can't refuse service to someone based on sexual orientation?
There's a difference in doing something that involuntarily harms the public and something that doesn't. As I stated to disneydude, if a business is playing music too loud at night, throwing trash in the streets, or as in your example, not following food safety laws, that's a danger to the public. Not making a cake hurts no one.
Dude open your eyes; ARTICLE 14, SEC 1I can read you did not cite a clause and tell me the clause which contaisn that provision.
That is what it means to cite something which you cannot do.
BTW equal protection has nothing to do with selling or buying it has to do with GOVERNMENT as in we all have the right to equal protection UNDER THE LAW.
Explain further please ie give me a hypothetical situation.What about refusing to sell food to people?
We're not talking about black people. Please try to keep up.Sorry...but if a bigot says that their "religion" or their "moral beliefs" prevent them from serving black patrons at their lunch counter....the law does not protect them. You might want it to be otherwise, but the Constitution does not allow it.
You obviously cannot read then....go back and read......or do you still believe that there is nothing about "Equal Protection" in the Constitution.
Oh...let me save you the trouble. Article 14, sec 1. You might want to read it...then you might not make such a silly claim.
We're not talking about black people. Please try to keep up.
Explain further please ie give me a hypothetical situation.
LOL....wow....you should stop now before you display any more of your ignorance. Too funny......There is no article 14.
For your general constitutional education the constitution stops with article VII
So much for your expertise in the constitution
The ruling in is. Chalk another one up for the good guys
Colorado judge: Bakery owner discriminated against gay couple - Washington TimesA Colorado judge ruled Friday against a bakery owner who refused to prepare a cake for a gay couple’s wedding reception.
Administrative Law Judge Robert N. Spencer ordered Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, to “cease and desist from discriminating against complainants and other same-sex couples by refusing to sell them wedding cakes or any other product [he] would provide to heterosexual couples.”
Read more: Colorado judge: Bakery owner discriminated against gay couple - Washington Times
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Another ruling that bigotry will no longer be tolerated in America. If this baker is truly concerned about his religious beliefs....perhaps he should start by trying to be more "Christ-like" and try living the principles that Jesus Christ taught.
Dude open your eyes; ARTICLE 14, SEC 1
Here let me spell it out for you since you seem to be incapable of doing so yourself:AMENDMENT XIV
SECTION 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
See what a little education can do? Or are you still going to claim ignorance and that there is nothing about Equal Protection in the Constitution. DOH!!!
LOL....wow....you should stop now before you display any more of your ignorance. Too funny......
Ad hominen attacks mean you lost the argument.
Amendments and articles are not the same and there is no article 14
If you meant the fourteenth amendment you might have simply said so
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