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There are some things to many that are more important than money.
Being at peace with one's conscience trumps making a buck for many good folks. You want them to offer their talents toward something that goes against what their God teaches.
Then they should never have opened a business that is open to the public. Unfortunately, their "principles" were not enough to limit their greed
Then they should never have opened a business that is open to the public. Unfortunately, their "principles" were not enough to limit their greed
No, I want them to keep their bigotry and criminality out of the public sphere
She wasn't "forced" to shut down her business as in the government ordering her to.
She shutdown the store-front for economic reasons. After the case made the news there was a significant drop in business and she couldn't afford to remain open as a store-front. Operations were moved to a home-based business.
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Yes, keep engaging in your bullying to force them into offering their services to private organizations so they are out of the "public sphere"
and that way you no longer will have to try and justiify your intolerance of their religious beliefs and bigotry toward their religions.
You make a few claims here about Christians without offering any support. But, in any case, this is not about Blacks.
Thanks but I don't need your permission to do what is right.
I tolerate their beliefs. Our society does not tolerate their breaking the law in order to satisfy their bigotry and greed
Thanks but I don't need your permission to do what is right.
I tolerate their beliefs. Our society does not tolerate their breaking the law in order to satisfy their bigotry and greed
And the laws being passed are not protecting the rights of all citizens. For every baker that refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple due to religious convictions there are two more bakers out there that would gladly take their business. Your intolerance to not allow a person the right to moral conscience in my opinion is probably the most intolerant act of all because you want to force them to violate their very being in the name of some misguided law. Disgusting.
Yes, yes, what Rosa Parks did was the same as two Gays ordering a wedding cake and going to the courts when the baker refused. We get it.
And many atheists, agnostics, Muslims and Hindus believed a lot of different things as well. What is your point?What kind of support do you want? Many Christians also 'believed' that women were not supposed to work out side the home and that God granted them permission to beat their wives. Are those in the Bible? Many sects did interpret the Bible that way.
More important, the case isnt about blacks, no, but it IS about civil rights, which blacks and women both had to fight for as well.
It is about civil rights on both sides of the counter, which is just the point. Blacks and women are off topic.
They have the right to believe whatever their immoral conscience tells them to believe
they don't have the right to break the law to satisfy their disgusting bigotry and greed
No single act ended racism...still hasnt.
It's the accumulation of sruggle and visibility and education and societal change.
But what you are displaying is sheer bigotry toward their religious beliefs and according to the Constitution it is against the law for you to violate those religious beliefs by forcing them through laws to do so.
No, sheer bigotry is what the baker displayed and these laws are not unconstitutional
This is ridiculous comparing Rosa Parks to this couple.
You should be embarrassed to have done it.
I hope you were being sarcastic.
Provide a link to your attempt to use black people as a wedge? Too funny........ok....link back to your post.When making these sorts of charges its always helpful if you provide appropriate links.
This is not about racism.
Which laws are not unconstitutional? Has this case made the Supreme Court yet?
Actually, refusing to sell a cake they made is the opposite of greed because they are clearly losing profit.
Hyperbole never wins debates.
But what you are displaying is sheer bigotry toward their religious beliefs and according to the Constitution it is against the law for you to violate those religious beliefs by forcing them through laws to do so.
This is not about racism.
These laws forcing businesses with moral convictions go against most state constitutions as well. What makes them unconstitutional is they are being created by judges who unconstitutionally are legislating from the bench.
No one is being treated as less than a full person. Now if gay people were being treated like 3/5 of a person as Black slaves once were, then you might have a point but that isn't the case. At times there are conflicts between us in our view of what is moral. The question that should be asked is it moral to force another by law to do something that is against their own conscience? The answer should be NO! As marriage continues to be redefined who knows what it will look like in twenty years. Already there are groups of people in this country that don't see it morally wrong for incest relationships and want to know why there are laws on the books to forbid it. There are others who do not find it morally wrong to engage in polygamy and want to know why there are laws that forbid them in such relationships. It isn't a far leap before some judge somewhere will rule incest relations and polygamy legal. It is happening all over the world. Not if but when that happens, and a father and daughter wanting to get married, and the baker refuses to bake them a cake because he finds their relationship immoral, then the baker could be hauled into court for saying no. It is coming for those business owners who believe marriage to be between a man and a women will no longer offer their services to the public. The wedding planners, the photographers, the bakers, caterers will solely work with private organizations that share their same belief system.
How would you compare two Gays not being offered a wedding cake in one establishment with the centuries long struggle, including a Civil War and murders, for the rights of Black people?
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