Coal Miners and the ACA, they could lose black lung subsidies!

[independentusa]

Coal Miners Stand to Lose Black Lung Coverage if ACA Is Repealed

Apparently the ACA has a section which makes it easy to get the black lung subsidy. Prior to the ACA and its langauge it was difficult if not impossible for those suffering from black lung to get the subidy, but the ACA made it easier. With the end of the ACA, many miners now getting the subsidy may lose it. Voting against your own interest has become a way of life for people in this country, but this is so directly against their interest they should have seen this coming. And do they really think coal is going to make a big come back, NOT. I saw a segment on one of the talking heads 24 hour news programs discussing this problem with those getting the subsidy. I didn't know wheter to laugh or cry when I heard thses retired coal miners saying that "their" Trump would never do away with the ACA and their benefit. You wonder why so many ppeople fooled themselves into believing that Trump had any true feeling for the "little guys". I think after seeing who he chose for his cabinets, many of the little prople are beginning to realize how he fooled them.

 

[reinoe]

Coal Miners Stand to Lose Black Lung Coverage if ACA Is Repealed

Apparently the ACA has a section which makes it easy to get the black lung subsidy. Prior to the ACA and its langauge it was difficult if not impossible for those suffering from black lung to get the subidy, but the ACA made it easier. With the end of the ACA, many miners now getting the subsidy may lose it. Voting against your own interest has become a way of life for people in this country, but this is so directly against their interest they should have seen this coming. And do they really think coal is going to make a big come back, NOT. I saw a segment on one of the talking heads 24 hour news programs discussing this problem with those getting the subsidy. I didn't know wheter to laugh or cry when I heard thses retired coal miners saying that "their" Trump would never do away with the ACA and their benefit. You wonder why so many ppeople fooled themselves into believing that Trump had any true feeling for the "little guys". I think after seeing who he chose for his cabinets, many of the little prople are beginning to realize how he fooled them.

Hillary Clinton promised to put the coal industry out of business for good. I bet they'd have lost their insurance altogether if that happened.

 

[MaggieD]

Coal Miners Stand to Lose Black Lung Coverage if ACA Is Repealed

Apparently the ACA has a section which makes it easy to get the black lung subsidy. Prior to the ACA and its langauge it was difficult if not impossible for those suffering from black lung to get the subidy, but the ACA made it easier. With the end of the ACA, many miners now getting the subsidy may lose it. Voting against your own interest has become a way of life for people in this country, but this is so directly against their interest they should have seen this coming. And do they really think coal is going to make a big come back, NOT. I saw a segment on one of the talking heads 24 hour news programs discussing this problem with those getting the subsidy. I didn't know wheter to laugh or cry when I heard thses retired coal miners saying that "their" Trump would never do away with the ACA and their benefit. You wonder why so many ppeople fooled themselves into believing that Trump had any true feeling for the "little guys". I think after seeing who he chose for his cabinets, many of the little prople are beginning to realize how he fooled them.

I don't believe the premise of the article. The benefit they get is disability. They got it before ACA and they will get it after. Nothing more than fear-mongering. Obama and his minions will do ANYTHING to protect his legacy. Even scare the crap out of the innocent.

Edit... and then, of course, there's this...

Earlier this month, both the House and the Senate introduced resolutions to preserve the Byrd Amendments from a broader ACA repeal. Rep. Evan Jenkins , R-W.Va., an ACA opponent, introduced the measure in the House.

The Byrd Amendments is what makes all that happen. But much better to scare them...

 

[Vetplus40]

I don't believe the premise of the article. The benefit they get is disability. They got it before ACA and they will get it after. Nothing more than fear-mongering. Obama and his minions will do ANYTHING to protect his legacy. Even scare the crap out of the innocent.

LOl....Everything is STILL Obamas fault........

I do agree about the problem with scaring people. Very similar to what Trump does with his fabrication of terrorism facts.

 

[Greenbeard]

I don't believe the premise of the article. The benefit they get is disability. They got it before ACA and they will get it after. ...The Byrd Amendments is what makes all that happen. But much better to scare them...

Why would these benefits need to be "preserve[d]... from a broader ACA repeal" if they have nothing to do with the ACA?

 

[independentusa]

most of them have ACA.

 

[independentusa]

Actually, few people before ACA got this subsidy.

 

[Mr Person]

I don't believe the premise of the article. The benefit they get is disability. They got it before ACA and they will get it after. Nothing more than fear-mongering. Obama and his minions will do ANYTHING to protect his legacy. Even scare the crap out of the innocent. .

Except that the article notes that before the ACA, miners had to prove causation. That is rather difficult in cases of long-term exposure, the more so for each additional risk factor the individual was exposed to other than that claimed as the cause.

And I'd also note that the article says "could" not "would" change this; that would depend on whether the amendments you note stick or not, of course.

 

[Helix]

Coal Miners and the ACA, they could lose black lung subsidies!

i doubt it. Republicans would patch that potential loophole instantly, and Democrats would support it.

 

[Mr Person]

i doubt it. Republicans would patch that potential loophole instantly, and Democrats would support it.

Unless someone wants to hold legislation containing it hostage by adding an irrelevant poison pill amendment. The children do this often....

 

[Helix]

Unless someone wants to hold legislation containing it hostage by adding an irrelevant poison pill amendment. The children do this often....

possibly. still doubt it, though.

 

[Mr Person]

On the broader point, I suspect that as they go down the checklist, they will find an increasing number of things not to get rid of.

The main charge against Obamacare, that it raised insurance costs, isn't fair. For most of its tenure, premiums went up slower than they had per year in the past decade. But, it didn't control costs. It is not easy to see how it could absent single-payer, "Medicare for all" or "Insurance for everyone!"

But it did a number of good things that won't be easy to get rid of. Enough of the voters who opposed it initially may have changed their minds.

 

[Linc]

The voters who put GOPs into office these last four terms and are now afraid of losing their ACA should be the first ones to lose it.

Especially in states like Kentucky where GOPoliticians convinced their voters that kynect was different from Obamacare (ACA) .

 

[MaggieD]

Except that the article notes that before the ACA, miners had to prove causation. That is rather difficult in cases of long-term exposure, the more so for each additional risk factor the individual was exposed to other than that claimed as the cause.

And I'd also note that the article says "could" not "would" change this; that would depend on whether the amendments you note stick or not, of course.

Congress has already introduced a bill to keep that. I posted the quote earlier.