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Simon W. Moon said:LOL!
Too bad you have such major problems accepting personal responsiblity for your actions.
Kudos on your victimhood, though. You're doing a great job with that.
Who're the kinds of folks who refuse to accept personal respoinsibility for their actions, promote their own victim status, support big-government presidential Admins (like the current one), and who think that the federal government's social engineering projects (like the one to remake the ME) are an appropriate solution?
In my day we called these folks liberals. But today, as we can see (w/ ptsdkid as a exemplary example) they have taken to calling themselves conservative.
If you keep milking your victimhood like that, you'll grow hair on your palms and will go blind.
Yep. That's why you are making such an effort to blame the mods et al for your decision not to conduct civil discourse.ptsdkid said:I have major problems accepting responsibility with my actions?
Of course you do.ptsdkid said:I fail to see where I'm not holding up my end of the responsiblity factor.
I see you've learned the lessons well. You're playing the victim role to the hilt.ptsdkid said:What's with this reference to 'victimhood'. What a laugh. Victomhood is the liberal's ace in the hole. Everyone is a victim in the liberal's world.
And they're all examples of your behavior.ptsdkid said:All those issues you stated were and still are examples of liberal victomhood.
cnredd said:Nice thread...all I can say is...
Congratulations Navy Pride...You longer have the title...
cnredd said:Nice thread...all I can say is...
Congratulations Navy Pride...You longer have the title...
Me either. The GW Bush Admin has been doing it for a while now though. Go figure.Navy Pride said:I will never understand why Liberals pretend to be Republican...
Simon W. Moon said:Me either. The GW Bush Admin has been doing it for a while now though. Go figure.
From what I've seen, your wondering comes from erroneously associating support for the invasion of Iraq as the litmus test for things Republican and things conservative. Don't forget that there are other elements of conservatism. I find company with the earlier generation of conservatives like Milton Friedman, William Buckley jr. - people from before the liberal entryists (the neocons) came to have so much influence.Deegan said:If anyones red is in question, it's yours sir, seriously, why are you red?
Simon W. Moon said:From what I've seen, your wondering comes from erroneously associating support for the invasion of Iraq as the litmus test for things Republican and things conservative. Don't forget that there are other elements of conservatism. I find company with the earlier generation of conservatives like Milton Friedman, William Buckley jr. - people from before the liberal entryists (the neocons) came to have so much influence.
You'll have to remember that I joined when we were the party of Reagan and in favor of small government. Now the party has come to be dominated by "big-government conservatives" (as if there could actually be such a thing. That's about as sensible as dehydrated water.) In those days we had Realist foreign policy in the line of Kissinger, Scowcroft and Baker where America's vital interest took precedence over idealistic visions of ivory tower academics who want to use America's military to conduct dicey social engineering experiments on the other side of (and possibly all around) the globe.
Have you ever even heard of the Sharon Statement? It's a brief document, but I'll not republish it in its entirety that there may be some joy of discovery left for those who have not.
Here're some excerpts:That foremost among the transcendent values is the individual's use of his God-given free will, whence derives his right to be free from the restrictions of arbitrary force;As I noted here, the electorate must keep its watchful eyes not only on foreign enemies, but on the more insidious internal enemies that are not even human but rather human frailties like the tendency to trust those in power forgetting that they are, after all, politicians, and blind forces such as those that make us likely to consider rational ignorance an option.
That the purpose of government is to protect those freedoms through the preservation of internal order, the provision of national defense, and the administration of justice;
That when government ventures beyond these rightful functions, it accumulates power, which tends to diminish order and liberty;
That we will be free only so long as the national sovereignty of the United States is secure; that history shows periods of freedom are rare, and can exist only when free citizens concertedly defend their rights against all enemies;
That American foreign policy must be judged by this criterion: does it serve the just interests of the United States?
The electorate must actively preserve and acquire all necessary tools to find skullduggery and the appearances of skullduggery. When used properly, these limit the damage potential of hugger mugger scoundrels and reprobates in positions of public trust. The electorate must also actively preserve and acquire all necessary tools to end and correct such perfidy as it is discovered.If others want to embrace big-government philosophies, substitute cheering and jeering for rational debate (thereby surrendering our hard won freedoms to the whims of whatever politicians have the best slogans), and trade the lives of our men and women in the armed forces in pursuit of idealistic flights of fancy rather than the just interests of the United States and call this conservatism, I, unfortunately, cannot stop them. But it doesn't mean that I have to follow after them and use their newspeak calling these things conservatism or calling what is conservatism something else.
As Gee Dubya the First's s'posed t'said, "[government] is a dangerous servant".
Simon W. Moon said:Me either. The GW Bush Admin has been doing it for a while now though. Go figure.
Deegan said:If anyones red is in question, it's yours sir, seriously, why are you red?
Deegan said:Thank you for taking the time to clear that up for me, but I will admit that I already assumed as much. I just don't think you repair a party, or bring them together, by tearing it down. I suggest you join a new one, or create another, right now, all you are doing at this point, is assuring that this will be the end result, so why wait? A party without new ideas, or diverse members, has little chance of sticking around, this is where you have positioned yourself, IMO, and just a respectful observation.
Simon W. Moon said:Me either. The GW Bush Admin has been doing it for a while now though. Go figure.
Big government is now being called moderate these days. Interesting.Navy Pride said:GWB is a social Conservative and a fiscal moderate.........
Druther have a conservative as president.Navy Pride said:Would you rather have John Kerry as president?
Who's ragging the party? I've just got issues w/ the actions of the crew who're in now.Deegan said:I just don't think you repair a party, or bring them together, by tearing it down.
To what end? How would I be better served? There's no party with a hand in glove fit.Deegan said:I suggest you join a new one, or create another, right now, all you are doing at this point, is assuring that this will be the end result, so why wait?
Exactly. If everyone like me were to leave the GOP umbrella, the GOP would suffer from the loss of "diverse members" and "new ideas."Deegan said:A party without new ideas, or diverse members, has little chance of sticking around ...
Simon W. Moon said:Who's ragging the party? I've just got issues w/ the actions of the crew who're in now.
To what end? How would I be better served? There's no party with a hand in glove fit.
Starting my own party would be an exercise in futility. Before the planning stage even begins, I know I'm unwilling to put forth kind of effort it woud take to make that work. So the question of whether or not I could is moot.
The GOP will cycle back around to one of its more sensible moods.
Exactly. If everyone like me were to leave the GOP umbrella, the GOP would suffer from the loss of "diverse members" and "new ideas."
Simon W. Moon said:Big government is now being called moderate these days. Interesting.
Simon W. Moon said:Druther have a conservative as president.
Here's a few to get you started...Originally posted by ptsdkid
I have yet to see CNNredd counter any of these anti-American liberal actions
Simon W. Moon said:Yep. That's why you are making such an effort to blame the mods et al for your decision not to conduct civil discourse.
Of course you do.
There's no other explanation as to why your discourteous and uncivil spleen-venting is placed in the Basement other than folks are out to get you. There's no way whatsoever that you could be responsible for what you post. Of course, of course. There, there, you poor picked on baby.
I see you've learned the lessons well. You're playing the victim role to the hilt.
And they're all examples of your behavior.
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