CNN Reporter Detained by Cops During Live Broadcast

[Loulit01]

We're still waiting...

You have no idea what I quoted because you don't read the posts responding to your posts. For example, did you read the SCOTUS decisions in #65? No.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

You have no idea what I quoted because you don't read the posts responding to your posts. For example, did you read the SCOTUS decisions in #65? No.

No, I didn't read the decisions. I never said I did. You claimed they said something, and I asked you to quote where they said that thing.

This shouldn't be difficult for you.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

You have no idea what I quoted because you don't read the posts responding to your posts. For example, did you read the SCOTUS decisions in #65? No.

We're still still waiting...

 

[Loulit01]

We're still still waiting...

Are you serious? Go read the decisions and learn something. Geezus.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Are you serious? Go read the decisions and learn something. Geezus.

It's not up to me to stumble blindly around court opinions trying in vain to find something you claim to be in there, somewhere. You said these three opinions conclude journalists have special rights beyond those enjoyed by others.

Show your work.

 

[Loulit01]

It's not up to me to stumble blindly around court opinions trying in vain to find something you claim to be in there, somewhere. You said these three opinions conclude journalists have special rights beyond those enjoyed by others.

Show your work.

Okay, wait there, I'll be right back.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Okay, wait there, I'll be right back.

I think we all know this means you can't show that the Supreme COurt has ruled journalists have extra rights beyond those enjoyed by everyone else.

Thanks for playing. I'm sure there are some lovely parting gifts for you backstage.

 

[Loulit01]

Every body wants everything handed to them. No one wants to put in the time. That's not how it works. If you want to understand a SCOTUS decision, read it. You want a summary? Paste it into Google and find a summary.
This is why people believe Trump when he promises to end the war in a day, to lower prices, to reduce the debt while cutting taxes. It's just laziness. Laziness leads to ignorance and we get MAGA destroying the republic.

 

[Michael Cole]

People are claiming journalists get special rights above those of others.

The press is protected. That includes reporters, editors and everyone else involved with documenting events. These aren't special rights. They're not above anyone. You seem to be stuck in an authoritarian, hierarchical mindset. It doesn't work that way.

Freedom of the press allows us to document and report events, including those by the government. That's all it means. From this, police are not allowed to interfere in this activity.

Freedom of the press grants rights to an activity, not to particular people.

THis is not the case. If pointing out that facts triggers you and makes you think someone is defending this or that, that's not something I can control.

Perhaps the problem is you.

I'm just sayin'.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Are you seriously trying to use a contemporary dictionary to tell us what a word meant when it was used nearly 250 years ago?

You are wrong, Griz.

The LAPD violated a court order.

Indeed, yours certainly is!

 

[Grizzly Adams]

You are wrong, Griz.

The LAPD violated a court order.

Like I said the last time you said it:

If they did, this story isn't one that covers it. Unless you believe in time travel.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Every body wants everything handed to them.

If you mean everyone expects you to support your own arguments instead of demanding others hunt for evidence you claim exists, then yeah. That's the nature of proving your claims.

No one wants to put in the time. That's not how it works. If you want to understand a SCOTUS decision, read it. You want a summary? Paste it into Google and find a summary.
This is why people believe Trump when he promises to end the war in a day, to lower prices, to reduce the debt while cutting taxes. It's just laziness. Laziness leads to ignorance and we get MAGA destroying the republic.

Expecting you to support your claims is "destroying the republic?"

Ridiculous and melodramatic.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

The press is protected. That includes reporters, editors and everyone else involved with documenting events. These aren't special rights. They're not above anyone.

Agreed.

You seem to be stuck in an authoritarian, hierarchical mindset.

I don't know why you say this.

Freedom of the press allows us to document and report events, including those by the government. That's all it means. From this, police are not allowed to interfere in this activity.

Yes. But what it doesn't do is elevate those activities to some special status. If police are lawfully clearing out people from an area due to a riot, a person doesn't get to stay and hang around when others don't just because they're "reporting."

Freedom of the press grants rights to an activity, not to particular people.

Correct. That activity is publishing material.

 

[Michael Cole]

Agreed.


I don't know why you say this.

Because you speak in terms of higher and lower rights.

Yes. But what it doesn't do is elevate those activities to some special status.

This is what I'm talking about. You see this in a hierarchical context. It's not. The status is freedom of the press. It's neither special nor higher than other rights.

If police are lawfully clearing out people from an area due to a riot, a person doesn't get to stay and hang around when others don't just because they're "reporting."

They may or may not. Depends on the situation, I'm sure.

What the police can't do is stop someone from recording.

Correct. That activity is publishing material.

And everything associated with its dissemination.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Because you speak in terms of higher and lower rights.

...and how they don't exist.

This is what I'm talking about. You see this in a hierarchical context. It's not. The status is freedom of the press. It's neither special nor higher than other rights.

I've never said anything about certain rights being "higher" than others. I've been saying journalists don't have special rights. Saying everyone has the same right to the freedom of the press regardless of their occupation seems to me to be the exact opposite of a rights hierarchy.

They may or may not. Depends on the situation, I'm sure.

If they are lawfully clearing people from an area, the first amendment doesn't give journalists special rights to remain. JOurnalists are just like you and me. We all have the same rights, and the simple fact of being a journalist doesn't exempt you from the lawful orders the government is giving others.

What the police can't do is stop someone from recording.

Right.

And everything associated with its dissemination.

Okay?