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Yes...This is The Obama describing how/why GWB was a "poor" President.
Actually, he pointed out how The Obma was doing the same thing or expanding the things that made GWB a poor President.
So... If you agree that those things made GWB a poor president, you cannot help but agree that The Obama, who has continued or expanded those things, is worse.
Nothing you have posted here does anything but AGREE with the argument.
This was "left out" because it it completely irrelevant to my point, and is noithing but a red herring offered up by you to try to avoid that point.
Yes...This is The Obama describing how/why GWB was a "poor" President.
He then pointed out how The Obma was doing the same thing or expanding the things that made GWB a poor President.
So... If you agree that those things made GWB a poor president, you cannot help but agree that The Obama, who has continued or expanded those things, is worse.
Nothing you have posted here does anything but AGREE with the argument.
To directly address my premise, and either show how it is unsounrd or admit that you cannot.
You have done nothing other than restate my premise and agred that the supporting arguments are true.
If GWB pwas a poor president because he did XWZ then The Obama -must- be a more poor President because the did >WYZ
You restated it and, apparently, agreed with it.So now you admit that I adressed your point right.
I need to educate you on a point of the English language: edicate isn't a word.Second, I need to educate you on a small point of edicate. By referring to the President of the United States as "The Obama" shows great disrespect.
There is no provision of the Patriot Act that gives the govt. the right to enter your house without proper just cause so not sure where you are getting your information. Congress authorized the Patriot Act and reauthorized it under Obama so no I don't see a D after your name but I see you making allegations like someone with a D after their name. I am still waiting for you to name for me one American that has been prosecuted under the Patriot Act under the conditions you described. Until someone is you haven't lost anything.
Under certain cirumstances. The government already had that power.Im confused. Do you or do you not understand what the Patriot act is. What you challenge me to find is EXACTLY what the patriot act did. It allows the government to detain you without cause.
Under certain cirumstances. The government already had that power.It allows them to wire tap your phone without a warrent.
Personally, I'd call it a tie. I blame Bush for starting the human rights infringments, and I blame Obama for keeping them going. But given that Bush set the precedent, I think there is a fair argument that he's worse. But that still doesn't excuse Obama for keeping Gitmo prison open.Given that, you apparently believe that The Obama is a worse President than GWB.
I need to educate you on a point of the English language: edicate isn't a word.
You restated it and, apparently, agreed with it.
Given that, you apparently believe that The Obama is a worse President than GWB.
I need to educate you on a point of the English language: edicate isn't a word.
Cry me a river. When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibility.
Under certain cirumstances. The government already had that power.
Under certain cirumstances. The government already had that power.
The only thing the PA did was take power that the government already had - most notably, those used to fight organized crime - and extended them to terroriam.
Im confused. Do you or do you not understand what the Patriot act is. What you challenge me to find is EXACTLY what the patriot act did. It allows the government to detain you without cause. It allows them to wire tap your phone without a warrent.
There are hundreds of documented accounts of people who have been arrested under the patriot act.
You mean due process?The difference is due recourse.
You decided it was necessary to educate me, I returned the favor.Indeed. Etiquette. My bad spelling haunts me to this day. Whats your excuse for being a spelling Bully.
When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibilityNo, as a citizen of this country you should pay respect to the office.
i totally understand what the Patriot Act is but apparently you don't. Tell me when the first American has their rights taken away as you described so until that happens you have lost nothing. It does not allow the detaining of ANY AMERICAN without cause and you should know that. So if there are hundreds of documented accounts of Americans who have been arrested under Patriot Act it shouldn't be a problem to name a few.
You and people like you give the Libertarian title a bad rap.
Wait, I have to prove that it has been used before you will agree that it has happened. That until it is carried out it is no threat. I have lost nothing. Are you kidding.
Why the insult at the end. Why take it there. Why the personal attack. You want to tell "Your mama" jokes next.
Just so we're clear -- you agree that GWB was a better President that Tbe Obama. Thank you.
You decided it was necessary to educate me, I returned the favor.
When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibility
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Actually that isn't true, it was a 50-50 Senate the first two years and totally Democrat the last 2 years.
Fact remains from 2003 to 2007 the economy was booming, massive job creation and strong economic growth, BEA.gov and BLS.gov
Got to love the party of "n" which seems to be liberal talking points. There was total control of the Congress from 2009-2010 and look at the results. Now I understand why you want to divert from them but the truth is you cannot run from the actual facts.
My hero isn't on the ballot this year but the Obama agenda is. The facts are for all to see but you choose to ignore them. Fact, over 16 million unemployed Americans today up 4 million from when he took office, over 3 trillion added to the debt, and 1.6% economic growth. You ought to worry more about what is going on now vs. what you think went on back in the 80's. The actual facts aren't friendly to you.
I said:Exactly what disrespectful terms did I use. Please link.
I meant comments by others, not you.When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibility
This is either sheer ignorancr or an outright lie.One big fact you have overlooked, is the bush and the republican party’s legacy is UNFUNDED tax cuts for the rich and two wars=Near economic collapse
I said:
I meant comments by others, not you.
But, glad to see you agree that GWB was a better President than The Obama.
donc;1059061842]Which leaves four years, of an eight year presidency of solid republican majority to wreck an economy. almost successfully, I might add.
Nothing like cherry-picking stats, in the fall of a mid-term year eh? The fall air is fresh with the pungent smell of elephant ****. Why do you ignore not only the fact that from “Feb 2001”to”Aug 2003” , “1017000” jobs were lost under Bush? "1017000" JOBS LOST!!!…worse than Hoover!!
According to what I have read, the Gov. uses two different methods to measure employment. The payroll survey, which has the official figures, that are reported on, or near the first, of the month, and the household survey, which surveys 60,000 households per month.
Which survey are touting? Bear in mind that Bureau of Labor Statistics, CBO and the President’s Council of Economic Advisers, all agree that the larger survey gives a better measure of employment.
What facts have you presented? You can hardly compare a Presidency of less than two years to one of eight years.
:One big fact you have overlooked, is the bush and the republican party’s legacy is UNFUNDED tax cuts for the rich and two wars=Near economic collapse. :2wave
As if that argument doesnt cover a great number of few things.Did you have any other arguements or was the one all you had?
As if that argument doesnt cover a great number of few things.
And then, of course, there's The Obama grwoing the deficit 275% as fast as GWB did.
If GWB was bad because of his deficit spending, then The Obama must be that much worse.
The Obama ran on change - where is it?
Your question assumes facts not in evidence. You may try again.Which is worse, causing the crisis we are currently in or failing to get us out of it?
Which is worse, causing the crisis we are currently in or failing to get us out of it?
Your question assumes facts not in evidence. You may try again.
Non sequitur, red herring. Try again.So if the country was doing great when President Obama because president it would all have been because of President Bush right.
Non sequitur, red herring. Try again.
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