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CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]


I know this. You are obviously praising Reagan for pulling us out of a baby recession by tripling the debt but can;t seem to shut up about how horrible Obama is even though he pulled us out of a severe depression by increasing the debt by a mere 45%
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Kobie;1062378619]I know what the "misery index" was; I just think the "misery index" is a stupid statistic based on adding together two arbitrary, often unrelated figures.
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Of course you do because misery index actually has human faces associated with it and direct affects people. Obviously your book "learnin" doesn't apply human faces to your theory.



More jobs because of a larger labor force however jobs not keeping up with the labor force increases and record numbers dropping out because they are discouraged. Those are the economic numbers liberals want to ignore. Real GDP is also misunderstood because people like you don't understand we are a private sector economy not the govt. central economy Obama wants.

You don't think there was a foreclosure problem in the 81-82 recession. U-Haul was out of trailors, mortgage interest rates were 17.5%. every American was impacted by the high interest rates, high unemployment, and high inflation. People who don't own homes, weren't selling their homes, and had fixed 30 year mortgages weren't affected by this recession nearly as much as the high interest rates and high inflation compounding the 81-82 recession




Get your nose out of the textbook and actually do some research. Reagan wasn't out making campaign speeches against Tip O'Neil, Reagan promoted the greatness of the American spirit and our economy, not the greatness of the American govt. to solve personal issues.

I don't have any idea where you get your information regarding the 81-82 recession but the only reason the numbers don't look as bad is because of strong leadership, not divisive rhetoric by an incompetent President.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

calamity said:
I know this. You are obviously praising Reagan for pulling us out of a baby recession by tripling the debt but can;t seem to shut up about how horrible Obama is even though he pulled us out of a severe depression by increasing the debt by a mere 45%
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You sure are fixated on the tripling of the debt but sell that bs to your other Obamabots. Debt is only bad if you don't have the return to pay for that debt, Reagan generated a 60% increase in Income Tax revenue from his three years of tax cuts and before you go on about raising taxes, he didn't raise income taxes and that is where the increase of 60% shows up so tell me how you increase income tax revenue by cutting taxes three years in a row? Hint:17 million new job holders.

Please tell me how this recession that Obama inherited affected you and your family? What was your mortgage rate then vs now? You call it severe depression? that is total ignorance, there was no depression but I could make a case that the 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers today are in a depression and the lack of Obama leadership is keeping them there.
 

Dude, you prove yourself more wrong with every post in a classic case of open mouth insert foot.

Conservative Logic: Tripling debt,good; adding less than 50% to a debt, bad. What's the difference? THe tripling occurred under the Conservative's idol: Ron-Ron; while the slight increase is happening under a Democrat with a funny sounding name.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Uh, Obama's increased revenue by over $1 Trillion.

So, that must mean Obama's debt is good. Right?
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]


Perfect example of "Open mouth insert foot".

Saying the little blip in 80 was worse than the Bush Recession of 2007 is ridiculous. If you honestly believe it, then you have demonstrated to us your complete and total ignorance.
 
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calamity said:
Uh, Obama's increased revenue by over $1 Trillion.

So, that must mean Obama's debt is good. Right?
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Revenue is down since 2007.

2007 2,567,985
2008 2,523,991
2009 2,104,989
2010 2,162,706
2011 2,303,466
2012 2,450,164
2013 estimate 2,712,045

It might be slightly up this year, but only after the govts borrowed 4 trillion more, so is it real? And its not only Obamas fault. Congress approves the bills first.
 

Seriously?

Let me guess you heard all of that on MSNBC?

It's simply amazing how you Obamabots throw a blinds eye at the democrats spending and blatant fascism...

You do realize Obama has tripled the debt - the same debt that you claim bush tripled??

Yeah all this social welfare costs money you know?...
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

calamity said:
His mom was an American Citizen in good standing...
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Yes, I know all that. You were saying I was wrong about him being a Mexican-American.
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Anthony60 said:
Yes, I know all that. You were saying I was wrong about him being a Mexican-American.
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Why don't you just call yourself a concerned US citizen?

Besides, "Mexican American" is a bit redundant considering Mexico is in North America.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Why don't you just call yourself a concerned US citizen?

Besides, "Mexican American" is a bit redundant considering Mexico is in North America.
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Why should I call myself a "concerned US citizen"? As opposed to what? We are calling Ted Cruz a Mexican American because that's what he is, just "American" is not specific enough for the conversation. Besides, it's referring to nationality, not geography.
 
What are you blabbing about? None of what you said here is true.
 
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Anthony60 said:
Yes, I know all that. You were saying I was wrong about him being a Mexican-American.
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He has no Mexican in him whatsoever. That was my original point that obviously went whoosh right over your little head.
 
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Why does race matter?

I'm a Sicilian but I prefer "dude."
 
Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

What does 2007 have to do with it? Obama saw increased rev for every year he was in office, beginning in 2009.
 
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calamity said:
Nonsense. The debt Reagan took on handcuffed this nation for decades. We're still mired in Reagan's debt.
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That's funny! Yeah, the nation was really handcuffed in the '90's with that booming economy created by Reagan's policies! It just petered out at the end, when Clinton handed GWB a recession created by his tax hikes.

But, I guess, the $6 trillion (and counting) of debt that Obama has strapped us with, that's not a problem. LOL! Liberal logic is funny.
 
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There you go with that "Mexican" crap again. His dad is Cuban. Get a clue.
 
calamity said:
Actually, you can't prove it.
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You've said enough for me to assess...

No I can't prove it, but your yapper provides evidence hence a theory...

If it matters few things can be proved and all there is - is evidence....
 
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Ah...the Boom during Clinton's presidency was due to Reagan, and the bust while Bush governed for two terms was due to Clinton. But the mess Obama has to deal with is all on him.


Right Wing logic :roll:
 
Mr.Nick said:
You've said enough for me to assess...

No I can't prove it, but your yapper provides evidence hence a theory...

If it matters few things can be proved and all there is - is evidence....
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You assert much, substantiate nothing.
 
calamity said:
Ah...the Boom during Clinton's presidency was
due to Reagan, and the bust while Bush governed for two terms was due to Clinton. But the mess Obama has to deal with is all on him.


Right Wing logic :roll:
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Clinton lowered Capital Gains Taxes, and had a Republican Congress.

He also built the Sub-Prime Bubble, via executive orders that lowered lebding standards and it was all based on the false narrative of "redlining".

He also appointed a binch of criminals to run Fannie and Freddie, and was a generally scumny dude.

You need to educate yourself.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Sorry, I disagree. Spending originates in the house. The senate approves or disapproves the spending bills.

Consider this. Since you interpret things like you do, why is it any different for the republicans to want to give the people the same 1 year break from Obamacare-snare that Obama gave to his corporate friends?
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

1) The republicans are the majority in the house.

2) Spending bills originate in the house.

3) The senate can vote yes or no.

4) It is the democrats who have cause the shutdown.
 
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