CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

B'smith · Mar 9, 2015

Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

ANOTHER SLICE OF YELLOWCAKE

Grant said:
And usually for good reason. For example, you are quoting the EX-Chief of Mossad who has been out of office for four years, not the current Mossad Chief who certainly knows more than his predecessor and you.

Now you might see why liberals don't garner much respect in the real world, with Obama being a good example of that.

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You’re not going to know what Israel’s current Mossad chief really thinks as he is a political appointee & can just easily be “unappointed” if he contradicts his bosses The ex-Mossad chief knows as much about Iran's nuclear inclinations as anyone.

Both US & Israeli Military & Intelligence experts have strongly denounced the contents of Netanyahu’s speech as “replete with falsehoods” & oppose military actions.

Again, the Topic has to do with Netanyahu's credibility which is zilch among informed individuals.

Netanyahu, the U.S. & Israel’s myopic, Ziono-Con War Mongers have been trying to drag the US into another Regional, lie-based war for decades (see “A Clean Break;...”, P.N.A.C. & “Oded Yinon Plan”)
It is in America’s best interests to get out of the Region & stop creating enemies via “Collateral Damage”, egregious double standards & Occupation.

For over 200 years, Central Asia has been called “The Place Where Empires Go To Die” & “The Poison Chalice” by previous fallen superpowers.

As always, those most eager for War are the last ones to fight it.

"One of the most horrible features of war is that all the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are NOT fighting."
George Orwell, 1938

“ It appears “Bibi” is far more popular with crazy American neocons than he is with his own fellow citizens.”
Mike Krieger

Erod · Mar 9, 2015

Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

B'smith said:
REAL COST OF AID TO ISRAEL

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The WP Blog you cited contradicts the $Billions that draconian US sanctions have cost Iran

We've given Israel $Trillions to attack us, spy on us, sell our secrets to the highest bidder & snub our requests Re: Illegal Settlements

“The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel – $3*Trillion”
https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/
EXCERPT “ While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg.

There are many billions of dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S. support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3 trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars.

“The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion” is a summary of economic research done by Thomas R. Stauffer.

Stauffer is a Washington, D.C.-based engineer and economist who writes and teaches about the economics of energy and the Middle East.

Stauffer has taught at Harvard University and Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service.
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HOWEVER:

The Topic here has to do with opposition to Netanyahu's blatant falsehoods to provoke another War for Israel's Right Wing extremists.

Both American & Israeli Military & Intelligence Experts have exposed Netanyahu's assertions as deceptive falsehoods while loyal Americans oppose the undeniable disaster Netanyahu's War Mongering will cause for all in the region (incl. U.S. Troops)

Iran has Worldwide support against the egregious nuclear double standard exemplified by US - Israeli Nuclear policy.

What do you propose as an alternative to an even handed Policy reached by negotiations?

Good Lord, what a bunch of bullsh.

poweRob · Mar 9, 2015

Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

ObamacareFail said:
Get off your partisan high horse and pay attention to what the Obama admin is proposing. It amounts to little more then a ten year freeze in uranium enrichment with what's left of the sanctions gradually disappearing by the end of that ten years. At best it's a ten year delay on Iran getting nukes, with no incentive for Iran to halt their quest for nukes afterward. And that's only if Iran does not cheat on the agreement. We know how that worked out with North Korea. The whole Bibi speech is nothing but a "Bibi dissed Obama" thang to you, huh? If Iran gets nukes, there will be a nuclear arms race in the middle east....and all you are worried about is whether Obama is politically damaged politically in his last two years in office?

Strike a deal and you get 10 years of not having to worry about it. Don't strike a deal you have your arms race much earlier than that. You guys are pathetic in your inability to think due to ODS clouding every parsed word coming out of your mouths.

B'smith · Mar 10, 2015

Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

"WE?' NEED ANOTHER SLICE OF YELLOWCAKE

ObamacareFail said:
Big big yawn.

Bigger yawn.

It's Obama that does not have the balls. You know it and I know it.

There were sanctions in place that was slowly bankrupting Iran.....which is why they are negotiating to begin with. Many of those sanctions were suspended for the sake of the negotiations. Bad move.

If we do not stop Iran from getting nukes "NOW", A ground invasion will come later, whether we like it or not. As for what we could do now......tightening the noose on sanctions can't hurt. If it comes to military options....I don't agree that it can only be done with a full onslaught ground invasion. Bunker buster bombs can take out the nuke sites if properly targeted and taking out their oil fields would cut off their means to continue down the nuke road. They would eventually get the point. I hope sanctions can work...however the alternative is: "Whatever it takes!" Otherwise 50 to 100 years into the future, the adults will be asking:"Why didn't they stop the Iranians from getting nukes when they could have?!

The real political theater is Obama sending Kerry over to negotiate with Iran for the sake a a deal....any deal on paper that he can point to in his so-called legacy claiming that he dealt with Iran's nuke program. Carter did the same in regards to North Korea. They were cheating on the deal before the ink on the signed agreement was dry....and they now have nukes. You don't think Iran will do the same? Obama is doing the political theater. Bibi is acting for the sake of Israel's survival. If Kerry gets a deal with Iran.....it could happen any day, weeks, or months. Bibi should not be expected to wait out the elections before acting.

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Who is this "we" so frequently mentioned when it comes to creating another bloody, toxic Hell Hole far, far, far away?

"If we do not stop Iran from getting nukes...."

And, then "we" might need a ground invasion,......... I mean ANOTHER ground invasion while "we" feed someone else's child into the Martial Meatgrinder

You can be sure that the "we" who is fervently cheerleading a possible WW 3 is going to be comfortably seated, watching TV far, far from the fight while some one else's "we" is being burned, mutilated, traumatized & mangled for life.

What "we" really need to do is to visit one of those underfunded V.A. hospitals and donate some time around the smell of burned human tissue volunteering to help the 20 year old amputees that "we" so eagerly sent into the last bogus war looking for WMDs & Yellowcake.

"One of the most horrible features of war is that all the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are NOT fighting."
George Orwell, 1938

Grant · Mar 11, 2015

Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

poweRob said:
Strike a deal and you get 10 years of not having to worry about it.

That's really looking ahead.

This is yet another example of why liberals cannot be trusted to look after the future - either through educating their children, managing debts and expenses, or securing the safety of their country.

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