Civil War in Sudan

[Napoleon]

I think a lot of people and I'm included in this think that our ability to get food is more secure because sure droughts and strange weather can affect crops and it does affect the price but not necessarily the ability to obtain it.

It certainly seems that way. But the problem with civilization of course is that cities are unsustainable by themselves. Choose any city in the world, cut if off from all food imports, and everyone in it would be dead within three months.

 

[CLAX1911]

It certainly seems that way. But the problem with civilization of course is that cities are unsustainable by themselves. Choose any city in the world, cut if off from all food imports, and everyone in it would be dead within three months.

Well yeah cutting it off will break it

 

[ataraxia]

The citizens starving and dying in Sudan have no one to help them.
Don't you think that if aid could be brought in to help that country it would have already been done?
Remember, the U.S. is not responsible for going in and delivering aid to Sudan.

What does any of this have to do with the post you were responding to?

 

[ataraxia]

It certainly seems that way. But the problem with civilization of course is that cities are unsustainable by themselves. Choose any city in the world, cut if off from all food imports, and everyone in it would be dead within three months.

Yes- but I am sure rural areas wouldn’t notice the loss of cities.

 

[jaypatriot]

Is that something that could cause starvation today?

There are plenty of food kitchens to prevent any Dust Bowl famine from happening.

 

[jaypatriot]

What does any of this have to do with the post you were responding to?

WE WERE discussing the tragic situation in Sudan.
DOn't discuss it if you don't want to.

 

[CLAX1911]

There are plenty of food kitchens to prevent any Dust Bowl famine from happening.

And a lot more connections in supply chains

 

[ataraxia]

WE WERE discussing the tragic situation in Sudan.
DOn't discuss it if you don't want to.

Yes- we were discussing what you think are the root causes. Still waiting.

 

[jaypatriot]

Yes- we were discussing what you think are the root causes. Still waiting.

The root cause of the suffering in Sudan is a clash between two military forces both seeking control over the country.

 

[ataraxia]

The root cause of the suffering in Sudan is a clash between two military forces both seeking control over the country.

So is this just an observation, or are there any suggestions associated with it?

 

[jaypatriot]

So is this just an observation, or are there any suggestions associated with it?

Of course it is an observation after seeing news reported out of Sudan.
There is a civil war in progress and people are starving and dying because of it.
How deep into the details of that war do you wish to go?

 

[ataraxia]

Of course it is an observation after seeing news reported out of Sudan.
There is a civil war in progress and people are starving and dying because of it.
How deep into the details of that war do you wish to go?

OK. It's an interesting observation indeed.

 

[jaypatriot]

OK. It's an interesting observation indeed.

The mass media, the anti-Semites and pro-Palestinians are fixated on the idea that what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocide.
No one is looking at Sudan in terms of genocide or a terrible famine.
If there were Jews involved in perpetrating such a crisis you can bet there would be media attention placed on it. But the suffering in Sudan, a war between Muslim military forces does not get the attention the way Israel is prosecuting the war in Gaza. Why is that? No one cares about Muslim-on-Muslim suffering? It just doesn't sell as well as Jews fighting Muslims in this country.
It's like in South Chicago where blacks are killing other blacks in shocking numbers.
Who cares? Does the Progressive Mayor care? Does the Governor care?
Does the media care to shine a light on black-on-black crime?

80% Of Chicago Homicide Victims Are Black, City’s Crime Rate Highest Since 1996​

Written by Keenan Higgins
Black on black murders. Who really cares?
According to the Chicago Tribune, the medical examiner said it was the first time the office had handled that many homicides since 1994. Chicago Police Department data shows that 797 people were killed in the city, just one less short of the 798 slain back in 1996. To make matters even more troubling, that number doesn’t include people killed in shootings on Chicago expressways — those are in the jurisdiction of the Illinois State Police — nor are the self-defense shootings or fatal shootings by police officers.

80% Of Chicago Homicide Victims Are Black, City's Crime Rate Highest Since 1996

In 2021 alone, the city of Chicago recorded its most deadliest year since the 1990s after the Cook County medical examiner’s office confirmed that 836 of the more than 1,000 homicides it handled occurred in Chi-Town.

blackamericaweb.com

Crisis in Sudan: What is happening and how to help​

April 11, 2025

Each year, the International Rescue Committee’s (IRC) Emergency Watchlist analyzes which countries are most likely to experience a new or worsening humanitarian crisis. For the second consecutive year, Sudan tops the list as the country’s collapse accelerates amidst a brutal civil war that is devastating civilians.

Before the war erupted in April 2023, Sudan was already experiencing a severe humanitarian crisis that left 15.8 million people

in need of humanitarian aid. The conflict has greatly exacerbated these conditions, surging displacement figures to 14.6 million and leaving 30.4 million people—more than half of Sudan’s population—in need of humanitarian support.
Sudan now represents the largest and fastest displacement crisis in the world. It is also the largest humanitarian crisis on record.

Crisis in Sudan: What is happening and how to help | The IRC

For two consecutive years, Sudan tops the IRC’s Emergency Watchlist, a list of countries most likely to experience a new or worsening humanitarian crisis.

www.rescue.org

 

[ataraxia]

The mass media, the anti-Semites and pro-Palestinians are fixated on the idea that what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocide.
No one is looking at Sudan in terms of genocide or a terrible famine.
If there were Jews involved in perpetrating such a crisis you can bet there would be media attention placed on it. But the suffering in Sudan, a war between Muslim military forces does not get the attention the way Israel is prosecuting the war in Gaza. Why is that? No one cares about Muslim-on-Muslim suffering? It just doesn't sell as well as Jews fighting Muslims in this country.
It's like in South Chicago where blacks are killing other blacks in shocking numbers.
Who cares? Does the Progressive Mayor care? Does the Governor care?
Does the media care to shine a light on black-on-black crime?

80% Of Chicago Homicide Victims Are Black, City’s Crime Rate Highest Since 1996​

Written by Keenan Higgins
Black on black murders. Who really cares?
According to the Chicago Tribune, the medical examiner said it was the first time the office had handled that many homicides since 1994. Chicago Police Department data shows that 797 people were killed in the city, just one less short of the 798 slain back in 1996. To make matters even more troubling, that number doesn’t include people killed in shootings on Chicago expressways — those are in the jurisdiction of the Illinois State Police — nor are the self-defense shootings or fatal shootings by police officers.

80% Of Chicago Homicide Victims Are Black, City's Crime Rate Highest Since 1996

In 2021 alone, the city of Chicago recorded its most deadliest year since the 1990s after the Cook County medical examiner’s office confirmed that 836 of the more than 1,000 homicides it handled occurred in Chi-Town.

blackamericaweb.com

Crisis in Sudan: What is happening and how to help​

April 11, 2025

Each year, the International Rescue Committee’s (IRC) Emergency Watchlist analyzes which countries are most likely to experience a new or worsening humanitarian crisis. For the second consecutive year, Sudan tops the list as the country’s collapse accelerates amidst a brutal civil war that is devastating civilians.

Before the war erupted in April 2023, Sudan was already experiencing a severe humanitarian crisis that left 15.8 million people

in need of humanitarian aid. The conflict has greatly exacerbated these conditions, surging displacement figures to 14.6 million and leaving 30.4 million people—more than half of Sudan’s population—in need of humanitarian support.
Sudan now represents the largest and fastest displacement crisis in the world. It is also the largest humanitarian crisis on record.

Crisis in Sudan: What is happening and how to help | The IRC

For two consecutive years, Sudan tops the IRC’s Emergency Watchlist, a list of countries most likely to experience a new or worsening humanitarian crisis.

www.rescue.org

I think the difference is the sense of outrage at bullying- when one side is so overwhelmingly more power and better armed than the other, and has no sense of when to stop. I think we have all gotten that that in a bar fight or boxing match in the ring, when one side is clearly more powerful, but just goes beyond winning the fight to just outright barbarity and bloodlust. You want some ref or someone to just step in and tell them to stop.

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