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Just got it via a CNN alert text message, when I get an article Ill post it. This should've happened long before but of course Obama wanted to see if he could be the savior of Chrysler. Guess I wont be getting that Jeep Liberty.
They've been prolonging the inevitable. The biggest hurdle in all of this was the UAW.
They will not survive, even after restructuring. US automakers cannot compete against non union foreign labor.
I dont believe anyone said that it was ALL the unions' fault.So what you all are saying is that it is all the unions fault that these 2 car makers are failing?
Actually it was the bond holders that not come to an agreement.
So what you all are saying is that it is all the unions fault that these 2 car makers are failing?
I dont believe anyone said that it was ALL the unions' fault.
But then, if you didnt have straw men to beat down, you'd have no reason to post.
The biggest hurdle in all of this was the UAW.
They will not survive, even after restructuring. US automakers cannot compete against non union foreign labor.
They all should be allowed to go bankrupt. A stronger, better us Auto industry will rise from the ashes of this over unionized crap fest.
Sorry but so far here we have had:
And
While others have corrected this and said it is due to the bond holders, then there is no mention of why the car companies are in this state other than the usual blaming of the unions.
Considering that the truth is more complicated to say the least, and in that truth the unions are hardly to blame for all or even a majority of the problems of the 2 car companies. That is of course not saying that they are without blame. The main reasons GM and Chrysler are in the pickle they are in, are pure and simple.. crap product and woeful strategy for decades and poor leadership. Out of this poor leadership came the union contracts that the right seem to blame for everything.
It is sad to see Chrysler go down, and will be even more sad to see GM, the pilar of the American industrial machine and the American dream go belly up, but lets face it.. it is all their own doing and blaming a 3rd party is a pathetic excuse.
I, too, wonder how much of that loan will need to be paid back.Hmmm. So has our bailout handout we gave them just evaporated into thin air? Did it help one iota?
Hmmm. So has our bailout handout we gave them just evaporated into thin air? Did it help one iota?
...no one saying that it was ALL the unions' fault, as per your statement.Sorry but so far here we have had...
What level of blame do you place on the unions, and why?Considering that the truth is more complicated to say the least, and in that truth the unions are hardly to blame for all or even a majority of the problems of the 2 car companies.
Sorry but so far here we have had:
And
While others have corrected this and said it is due to the bond holders, then there is no mention of why the car companies are in this state other than the usual blaming of the unions.
Considering that the truth is more complicated to say the least, and in that truth the unions are hardly to blame for all or even a majority of the problems of the 2 car companies. That is of course not saying that they are without blame. The main reasons GM and Chrysler are in the pickle they are in, are pure and simple.. crap product and woeful strategy for decades and poor leadership. Out of this poor leadership came the union contracts that the right seem to blame for everything.
It is sad to see Chrysler go down, and will be even more sad to see GM, the pilar of the American industrial machine and the American dream go belly up, but lets face it.. it is all their own doing and blaming a 3rd party is a pathetic excuse.
Some blame the unions. Some blame Bush. Some blame Obama.
I blame Chrysler itself. Why? Because, while other automakers were designing for the future, Chrysler continued to assume that the buying public still wanted big cars that could pass everything but a gas station.
Chrysler deserved what happened to them. A company that cannot keep up in the marketplace, and is unwilling to change with the times, deserves to go under.
Here's the article for those interested. Color me shocked and surprised.
There was a retired engineer from Chrysler who basically said the same thing on NPR this morning. He said the PT Cruiser was over weight and had a crappy engine with low mileage.
A common thread I've seen in American named (most American manufactures aren't making in America anymore) is a very tight engine space that you can barely work in.
My 4 banger Japanese car has plenty of space to work on the engine in.
Finally. Let them all fail. I don't want my tax dollars being spent to help companies will failing policies. I'd rather the US have no domestic based auto companies then government backed failing companies.
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