An excellent little article of what it is and what it is not...
https://biblelovenotes.blogspot.com...R_10lLdd4Q_-xFp2cZtV9hNiM-b2u2YLSfYVyCP5Q&m=1
https://biblelovenotes.blogspot.com...R_10lLdd4Q_-xFp2cZtV9hNiM-b2u2YLSfYVyCP5Q&m=1
Tolerance Isn't Approval or Agreement - Luke 9:26
Genuine tolerance means treating everyone with respect even when we disagree with their lifestyles and beliefs.
However, some people use the word "tolerance" to mean approving all lifestyles and beliefs.
Ironically, tolerance isn't necessary when we agree.
More importantly, no one can approve all lifestyles and beliefs because most of them contradict, oppose, or exclude each other.
Those who claim to celebrate diversity actually celebrate the diversity of people who agree with them and reject the diversity of those who disagree.
God expects us to show true tolerance, treating people respectfully. But He doesn't expect us to approve of their sins any more than he expects us to approve of our own.
This misuse of "tolerance" is often an attempt to shame or silence Christians which leads to the misuse of another word - "hate." No matter how kindly a Christian defends God's truth, they're called "haters" by those who claim to love diversity.
But God has a different name for His defenders. He calls them faithful.
See Matthew 5:10; Luke 9:26; 2 Timothy 4:2-3; James 1:12.
An excellent little article of what it is and what it is not...
https://biblelovenotes.blogspot.com...R_10lLdd4Q_-xFp2cZtV9hNiM-b2u2YLSfYVyCP5Q&m=1
Because it is true...my next door neighbors are 2 women who are married...I have respect for them because they are good neighbors, good people...do I approve of their lifestyle? No, but it's none of my business what they do behind closed doors...How do Christians get away with saying they "tolerate" gay people, but don't approve of their lifestyle or beliefs?
Like I said in my post, if I said "I respect straight people, I just approve of their beliefs or lifestyle" you would probably think I had an issue with straight people. Like what does that even mean? If I disapprove of you being straight, that's not your "lifestyle." That's a part of who are as a human being. It's an essential part of your life experience. It is just as nonsensical and demeaning as saying you "respect Black people, but don't approve of their lifestyle." Being gay isn't a lifestyle anymore than your race, gender, or height is.Because it is true...my next door neighbors are 2 women who are married...I have respect for them because they are good neighbors, good people...do I approve of their lifestyle? No, but it's none of my business what they do behind closed doors...
Yes, that is nonsense...they have a variety of lifestyles, just the same as white people do...It is just as nonsensical and demeaning as saying you "respect Black people, but don't approve of their lifestyle."
That's what I'm saying. Being gay is NOT a lifestyle. Being straight is not a lifestyle. Saying you don't approve of their lifestyle doesn't even make sense. It would be like saying you don't approve of the lifestyle of tall people.Yes, that is nonsense...they have a variety of lifestyles, just the same as white people do...
Never? Not even one?American "christians"......I want to be EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of American "christians".
In order to do that...I can simply try to be like Christ. American "christians" dont ever do that from my experience.
But you enjoy that.
That's what I'm saying. Being gay is NOT a lifestyle. Being straight is not a lifestyle. Saying you don't approve of their lifestyle doesn't even make sense. It would be like saying you don't approve of the lifestyle of tall people.
Tolerance does not mean I approve of the way they live or even agree with them but I can still respect them as human beings and I have no desire to hurt them or see them hurt...that is what people today are lacking when it comes to tolerance, imo...people are all too eager to hurt those they don't approve of or agree with...That's what I'm saying. Being gay is NOT a lifestyle. Being straight is not a lifestyle. Saying you don't approve of their lifestyle doesn't even make sense. It would be like saying you don't approve of the lifestyle of tall people.
Clearly. Saying you "tolerate" something implies that it is negative in some way, but you just put up with it. Saying you "tolerate" gay people implies that being gay is a choice. It implies that being gay is a morally bad thing to be. It implies that being gay is something you have to tolerate. That gay people are disagreeable in some way to you, but you just deal with it.Tolerance does not mean I approve of the way they live or even agree with them
I don't want to be tolerated. Use your language with any other group and you see how disgusting and demeaning it is. If you said you "tolerate the Black people living next to you," but insisted you respected them as humans, I would be rightfully suspicious of that claim.but I can still respect them as human beings and I have no desire to hurt them or see them hurt...that is what people today are lacking when it comes to tolerance, imo...
It also isn't this...An excellent little article of what it is and what it is not...
https://biblelovenotes.blogspot.com...R_10lLdd4Q_-xFp2cZtV9hNiM-b2u2YLSfYVyCP5Q&m=1
I agree wholeheartedly...It also isn't this...
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LGTB Marriage issues, family structure, and overall cultural acceptance is apparently the business of many Christians. I am not trying to offend you, but I do question how close, friendly, and personally accepting you can manage to be of an openly a gay person on an interpersonal level. How do you feel about homosexual couples on TV and in series? Does it make you uncomfortable and offended?Because it is true...my next door neighbors are 2 women who are married...I have respect for them because they are good neighbors, good people...do I approve of their lifestyle? No, but it's none of my business what they do behind closed doors...
Because it is true...my next door neighbors are 2 women who are married...I have respect for them because they are good neighbors, good people...do I approve of their lifestyle? No, but it's none of my business what they do behind closed doors...
It does and I've stopped watching some of my fav shows for that very reason...How do you feel about homosexual couples on TV and in series? Does it make you uncomfortable and offended?
It kind of sounds like you don’t like being around gay people, but have defined tolerating them as “wanting nothing bad to happen to them.” If Jesus is known for touching lepers and showing compassion above fear and disgust, how is to best handle the issue of LGTB beyond not wanting anything bad to fall upon them?It does and I've stopped watching some of my fav shows for that very reason...
Nope, it has nothing to do with being around them and everything to do with intimate actions the Bible says is unnatural...I don't care to be an observer...It kind of sounds like you don’t like being around gay people, but have defined tolerating them as “wanting nothing bad to happen to them.” If Jesus is known for touching lepers and showing compassion above fear and disgust, how is to best handle the issue of LGTB beyond not wanting anything bad to fall upon them?
You don't speak for all...I don't interfere in the least...everyone who dies goes to hell so I don't threaten anyone with that false doctrine, either...Tolerance isn't approval or agreement. It is also not interference. Christians are a long way from not interfering with LGBTQ. If truly tolerant, they can rest assured knowing the Christian fate of LGBTQ is hell.
An excellent little article of what it is and what it is not...
https://biblelovenotes.blogspot.com...R_10lLdd4Q_-xFp2cZtV9hNiM-b2u2YLSfYVyCP5Q&m=1
The Bible says everybody sins, but this particular group of people get singled out very harshly. I am not convinced there is a religious defense as much as a personal, cultural, and generational defense. The way the religious in this society treat and view LGTB in comparison to other sinners: adulterers and fornicators like Trump, alcoholics, having children outside of marriage, etc, these things are easier to swallow and tolerate for many Christians in comparison to LGTB.Nope, it has nothing to do with being around them and everything to do with intimate actions the Bible says is unnatural...I don't care to be an observer...
That ain't me...It is the "tolerance" of the Christian who tries to force by law that which he claims is sin to be illegal.
I do and I don't...vote, that is...A tolerant Christian accepts as legal abortion and SSM and all other things, never seeking to have such made illegal, even while trying to convince others to not engage in such actions.
As do gay people.Yes, that is nonsense...they have a variety of lifestyles, just the same as white people do...
None of that has anything to do with me...The Bible says everybody sins, but this particular group of people get singled out very harshly. I am not convinced there is a religious defense as much as a personal, cultural, and generational defense. The way the religious in this society treat and view LGTB in comparison to other sinners: adulterers and fornicators like Trump, alcoholics, having children outside of marriage, etc, these things are easier to swallow and tolerate for many Christians in comparison to LGTB.
If the church feels too outside the mainstream and faces losing power and money it will enviably moderate its stance. Churches have changed many stances and political positions over the years. Tolerating Trump really helped them gain control of the courts after all. If Trump’s sexual liaisons and abuse allegations all involved men, I have no doubt his Christian supporters wouldn’t have blinked.
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