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It's not baiting to make you strip the sugarcoating off of the fact that you think that homosexuality is an abomination to God.
Just own it.
I'm not sugarcoating anything. You asked me a question; I answered it. In fact, I expanded on it.
Wouldn't you be if someone mischaracterized you?
I'm trusting the article as it was reported. You are basing your distrust off nothing.
This isn't rocket science. What keeps alluding you?
If you had bothered to read it the article also reports on what the police said as well.
Ah so he's a liar until another article says he isn't even though you have no basis he is lying. Nice logic.
I'm placing more trust in the judgement of police officers than I am in a partisan, poorly-researched article that only quotes one side of a dispute. Is that how you like your journalism?
It's an article without proof. It interviews no witnesses. It has no response from the police. It quotes only the perpetrator and his counsel. You're right, it isn't rocket science. Now, what keeps eluding you? You are alluding to the fact that the police are lying. Where's you proof?
Er, no. It doesn't. I just reread the article. The police are not quoted. All that's there is the charge that he was arrested on and HIS report of what the police did.
I am not saying he's a liar, I'm saying that, and this may come as a surprise to you, there are two sides to a story and you are jumping up and down and claiming fascism based on one side of this story. It doesn't seem to occur to you that he may be lying, exaggerating, or misquoting. To you it's a clear story of some poor preacher having his rights infringed. It might be, but you can't draw that conclusion from one poorly researched article in one partisan newspaper.
Wouldn't you be if someone mischaracterized you?
You of all people know its not a red herring. You ran head-on into this issue and then realized you needed to run away.
You of all people know its not a red herring. You ran head-on into this issue and then realized you needed to run away.
Really. And what police report are you citing that supports your half baked theories?
It alleges that's what the police allege. It also said the police gave no statement, so we only hear what the police allege from the mouth of the perp and his counsel. Please quote what the police said, if you can.It also reports on what the police said. But that would take you actually reading the article which you obviously have not done.
Must I quote the article itself?
Anything is possible. But I'm not so blinded by ideology that I refuse to accept what he said without evidence to the contrary. You know, like you are. :2wave:
:roll:I admitted that you were wrong, I demonstrated that you were wrong,....
That's wonderful... but all that means is 'homophobia' isn't an actual phobia..
That's wonderful... but all that means is 'homophobia' isn't an actual phobia..I was curios, so I decided to see what Wiki said about Homophobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Heh. If only I had.
It's funny how you have issues with having your actual beliefs written out plainly like...
"I think homosexuality is an abomination in God's eyes."
Why does it bother you so much to just say it plainly like that, without sixty pages of explanation about why you're not a bad person for feeling that way and how you really care about gays/lesbians and are sensitive to their needs, but they're really big sinners?
Presuming for the moment that this is true -- why then the need to mal-characterize it as a fear?True...its more of a hatred than a fear.
:roll:
You may persist in your delusions, but regardless how much you do so, they are still your delusions.
Presuming for the moment that this is true -- why then the need to mal-characterize it as a fear?
No personal sympathy for the dude here. Don't think he should've been arrested for being a bigot, but I might have been arrested for "disturbing the peace" if I went out in public yelling at people (whether it had to do with religion or not).Dale McAlpine was charged with causing “harassment, alarm or distress” after a homosexual police community support officer (PCSO) overheard him reciting a number of “sins” referred to in the Bible, including blasphemy, drunkenness and same sex relationships.
The 42-year-old Baptist, who has preached Christianity in Wokington, Cumbria for years, said he did not mention homosexuality while delivering a sermon from the top of a stepladder, but admitted telling a passing shopper that he believed it went against the word of God.
Police officers are alleging that he made the remark in a voice loud enough to be overheard by others and have charged him with using abusive or insulting language, contrary to the Public Order Act.
Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin - Telegraph
Wow. Welcome to politically correct fascism, can I take your order?
You're the one with the theories. I'm refusing to jump to conclusions based on one side of the story. You are.[/quopte]
LOL I at least have an article as evidence. You have nothing., zip, zero.
It alleges that's what the police allege. It also said the police gave no statement, so we only hear what the police allege from the mouth of the perp and his counsel. Please quote what the police said, if you can.
It never once says the police's allegations came from the victim. You are fabricating evidence.
Nope, read it and understood it better than you, clearly.
Obviously not if you can't even read the statement from police.
Your sophistry is legendary. You accept whatever someone tells you provided it supports your own partisan standpoint. I'm not jumping to conclusions and I'm not believing everything the press tells me simply because it fits my weltanschauung.
No I accept what evidence I have until it is proven to be contrary.
Unlike you who doesn't accept it based on nothing. :2wave:
No personal sympathy for the dude here. Don't think he should've been arrested for being a bigot, but I might have been arrested for "disturbing the peace" if I went out in public yelling at people (whether it had to do with religion or not).
And of course the fundies will claim that some random asshole getting (possibly) unfairly charged with a crime = "The New World Order". :mrgreen:
As noted, you may continue to exhibit your delusions at your leisure - I, for one, get a kick out of goading you into this sort of self-abusing behavior.So even a good night's sleep didn't help you get over the case of WRONG you came down with? Poor thing.
It doesn't seem that this was the case, however.No personal sympathy for the dude here. Don't think he should've been arrested for being a bigot, but I might have been arrested for "disturbing the peace" if I went out in public yelling at people (whether it had to do with religion or not).
Where did this happen?And of course the fundies will claim that some random asshole getting (possibly) unfairly charged with a crime = "The New World Order". :mrgreen:
Where did this happen?
Well, let me ask this:In the OP. "Wow. Welcome to politically correct fascism, can I take your order?"
Sounds a lot like apocalyptic scare-mongering to me.
As noted,
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