MaggieD
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I have been saying for almost a full year now that Obama should not run again. His appearance on the ballot places the entire US government in danger of being taken over by the right wing and moving us down the Road to Serfdom and corporate fascism. As such - we simply need a better nominee who can win.
I am not clear about your question about Dems in state legislatures. Could you restate that or elaborate on it a bit?
Christie would be embarrassing. We would be feeding the american stereotype of being fat and pouting. Picture Christie visiting other nations, representing the US? It would be pathetic. And thats just his appearance, nvm his attitude when he doesn't get what he wants... hes a 7 year old brat that is extremely large. U can hear the guy breathing heavily on tv, always out of breath from walking up those 4 stair to the podium. He's almost as much of a tool as willard romney... ok thats pushin it
I was referring to your comment re fair and open elections. I assume you are referring to more states requiring voter identification cards. If you are alluding to anything else, it probably better belongs in the Conspiracy Forum.
Yes, I am referring to that right now. I expect it will get worse. Right wingers right here on this this forum and else where have been floating the idea of severely restricting the very concept of WHO can vote for some time now. They have advocated connecting the vote to the payment of a tax and would willingly disenfranchise scores of millions of people.
A right wing take over of ALL branches of the federal government could well see these efforts continue and expanded.
Well, even if you're right about the extremist view you contend exists, there's one branch no one can take control of...and that's SCOTUS. Other than crackpots on DP, there's no one out there of any consequence advocating a poll tax. That will never happen. State ID's are the responsibility of individual states which is why I said that, to have that happen, a whole bunch of Dem legislatures would have to go rogue.
You seem inordinately worried about this election, Haymarket. Me, I think it's going to be a horse race and Romney will lose. Now. You do have your pulse on what a Democratic legislature thinks, so I find that to be somewhat encouraging.
Even though there is no evidence of any significant election fraud, we have state after state controlled by the right wing enacting laws to change the way people vote which will result in some people losing their vote.
The radical right wing knows well the old Mark Twain story of the frog and the pot of boiling water. And right now we are all frogs watching the pot being filled up.
The only people who will lose their votes by having to provide identification are those that are too dumb to get a state I.D. My mom is 85 years old -- she wouldn't let her state I.D. expire for nothin'. Ha! The idea of needing to prove one is who they say they are in order to perform one's highest duty as an American citizen is so basic that I believe the only reason Democrats are crying foul is because there is voter fraud, and they know it.
Now, since I'm thread-derailing, you may have the last word on the subject.
Well, even if you're right about the extremist view you contend exists, there's one branch no one can take control of...and that's SCOTUS. Other than crackpots on DP, there's no one out there of any consequence advocating a poll tax. That will never happen. State ID's are the responsibility of individual states which is why I said that, to have that happen, a whole bunch of Dem legislatures would have to go rogue.
You seem inordinately worried about this election, Haymarket. Me, I think it's going to be a horse race and Romney will lose. Now. You do have your pulse on what a Democratic legislature thinks, so I find that to be somewhat encouraging.
The only people who will lose their votes by having to provide identification are those that are too dumb to get a state I.D. My mom is 85 years old -- she wouldn't let her state I.D. expire for nothin'. Ha! The idea of needing to prove one is who they say they are in order to perform one's highest duty as an American citizen is so basic that I believe the only reason Democrats are crying foul is because there is voter fraud, and they know it.
Now, since I'm thread-derailing, you may have the last word on the subject.
Really? That's your criticism of him? Not his political views or his policy decisions as governor, but his appearance?
My criticism of him is the same criticism he launches at the President. He has higher unemployment (9.8%) than the national average and is near dead last in job creation. Pretty difficult to take him seriously when he criticizes the President for the same things while his state is in the tank.
Hilary Clinton should have been the Democratic Party nominee this year. President Obama should have not run for a second term.
Having said that, let us assume that Obama wins reelection this year. I suspect that in four years Romney will not win the GOP nomination as he will be damaged goods and a loser in the eyes of many in the party. Hilary will be too old.
The field should be wide open on both sides.
You're assuming here that if Romney wins, he won't succeed in turning the economy around. My vote is ABO, but I think he might be able to do it.
No, it's unfortunate that republicans fielded a extremely weak field, when Obama has so much going against him and was vulnerable for an incumbent. But 4 years of Romney do not justify the 8 years of Hillary that will follow. Obama has been ineffective pushing any agenda, and that would not change. NO, IMHO, 4 more years of Obama, and then take the White House for the 8 years that follows is a better strategic plan. Romney will simply diminish the conservative brand, demoralize the base, and not only give away the executive branch in 2016, but probably drag down at least one house with him.
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