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don't think sohahahaha Gary Johnson? He is just as bad as Rand Paul, all people like him for is his stance on Marijuana.
ok. share with us what he has done which conflicts with his economic stancesI don't even think he really believes the economic stuff he talks about.
he has never been a major player. to many of us, who have little use or respect for the established parties. that he is free to be his own person is a good thingBesides Gary Johnson is no longer a major player.
being someone who appreciated many aspects of Ron Paul's politics, there is little to be appreciated from the sonThe Paulbots will move towards his son, just because of the Paul in his last name, none will remember that he basically betrayed them when endorsing Romney.
wish you were joking. it was Ron Paul adherents who began the tea party, when Ron Paul was uninvited to the GOP's nomination processEven though, Rand Paul is a lot more Tea Party like than his father.
what is really sad is having no idea about what one posts ... as we will soon again observe in your responsePutting Christie on the same level with Gary Johnson is just sad!
christie does have better name recognition. that is his lone advantage when comparing him to Gary Johnson. but his negatives - with members of both parties - will hurt his prospects whereas Gary Johnson is viewed positively by members of both parties - at least among those who know something about himChristie appeals to many more people. No one even knows who Gary Johnson is.
CPAC featured speakers will include:
Romney
Rubio
Jindal
Jeb Bush
Rand Paul
Ryan
Palin (seriously, she's going to be a speaker at CPAC)
Perry
Santorum
As we can see, and not surprisingly, CPAC plans to play to the right of right and then pander to the extreme right from there.
He's getting votes by being what Republicans should be.
And what should Republicans be? Democrats?
Progressive Conservatives while the Democrats should move more left.
Progressive Conservatives while the Democrats should move more left.
maybe i missed something; what do you find deficient with this thread?
don't think so
like christie, Gary Johnson was a republican governor of a blue state; only term limits keep him from still being its governor
and that had nothing to do with marijuana. it was about Johnson having the courage to do what he promised to do (vetoed 750 bills - 32%; more than all other 49 governors combined Track Record)
it is that rare trait which serves him well
ok. share with us what he has done which conflicts with his economic stances
i look forward to seeing this portion of your reply
he has never been a major player. to many of us, who have little use or respect for the established parties. that he is free to be his own person is a good thing
being someone who appreciated many aspects of Ron Paul's politics, there is little to be appreciated from the son
don't know how many of us there are, but i doubt his surname is going to be enough to overcome all of the objections many have to rand paul's personal ideology
wish you were joking. it was Ron Paul adherents who began the tea party, when Ron Paul was uninvited to the GOP's nomination process
only when the republican party/mccain crashed and burned in 2008, following the disaster of dicknbush, did the former GOP reich wingers co-opt the 'tea party' to avoid the embarrassment of being known as 'republicans'
what is really sad is having no idea about what one posts ... as we will soon again observe in your response
christie does have better name recognition. that is his lone advantage when comparing him to Gary Johnson. but his negatives - with members of both parties - will hurt his prospects whereas Gary Johnson is viewed positively by members of both parties - at least among those who know something about him
I see your point but I think two diametrically opposed philosophies are needed. This creates gridlock and the government as a rule is forced to move slowly. I believe the founders designed the system this way.
1. he has never been a major player.
2. but i doubt his surname is going to be enough to overcome all of the objections many have to rand paul's personal ideology
3. it was Ron Paul adherents who began the tea party.
4. christie does have better name recognition that is his lone advantage when comparing him to Gary Johnson.
5. but his negatives - with members of both parties - will hurt his prospects
6. whereas Gary Johnson is viewed positively by members of both parties
7. at least among those who know something about him
8. share with us what he has done which conflicts with his economic stances
The lack of original content.
Speculation is that this is about Christie's handling of Hurricane Sandy.
Kudos, Bubba! :bravo:
I have followed Gray Johnson and voted for Gary Johnson. You nailed it. In fact, you were bang on when you stated that Johnson would still be governor if it weren't for term limits. I suspect that when Cyrylek said that know one knows who Johnson is, he was speaking for himself.
other than Gary Johnson, christie is the only republican prospect who has even a remote chance of winning national election
exclude them from contention and open the door to yet another democratic presidency
If by "Progressive Conservatives" you mean imperial megalomaniacs like Teddy Roosevelt and technocratic meddlers like Herbert Hoover - that's what Republicans already are, in practice, when not making campaign speeches, most of them.
If the Democrats move any further to the left, they will self-destruct. Which is not a bad idea.
I see your point but I think two diametrically opposed philosophies are needed. This creates gridlock and the government as a rule is forced to move slowly. I believe the founders designed the system this way.
Progressive Conservative by the Canadian definition like Brian Mulroney.
Criste IMO- has two personal problems, with getting elected in 2016, his weight, which Only he can do something about, We like to think of our Potus in Prime Health and tho he may be now_ How about 4 years from now, at his current weight ...
his Outspoken praise for Obama in A crisis for NJ of hurricaine Sandy, I understand, WHY, he did it.. He Needed Help then and Money then.. for that I admire Him,.............. However he didn't have to personalize it with a Hug on national TV with the election a few weeks away............ I like Criste, I think eventually he will make a heck of a Potus, But not in 2016,
Jeb Bush and Rand Paul hardly belong to the "right of right" - a solid moderate and an almost-libertarian.
Neither do Paul Ryan, Rubio or Jindal - all three representing a new centrist core forming rapidly.
Romney hardly belongs anywhere at all. Perry's brand of conservatism is simply too outdated to matter (and not especially "rightist" either, if you ignore brash pronouncements). Palin has made too many confused and contradictory statements to be defined as anything but an entertainer.
So, there is Santorum. The sole representative of the "social conservatives" (and nowhere close to the "right" if "free-marketism" is required to be there, by your definitions.
Just goes to show how hard headed some Republicans and Conservatives can be.
Always complaining that politicians put politics ahead of the country.
But when his state was in trouble, he put his big boy pants on, rose above politics and worked with the president and other leaders to help his state.
Meaning he'd probably do the same thing for the country.
New Jersey (NJ) Poll - February 20, 2013 - New Jersey Gov Flies High, Bur | Quinnipiac University Connecticut
Of course, all Republicans hate him. That's why he has a 94% approval rating from Republicans in his own state, and 56% amongst Democrats.
Plus he is polling high in 7 other states. Still do you think he is big in the Midwest and out West?
Progressive Conservatives while the Democrats should move more left.
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