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China: Secret camps for Uighurs are revealed - by pictures taken with hidden camera

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A Chinese activist who calls himself Guan Guan has now published a long report on Youtube with secretly filmed material from several of the region's camps.
By pretending to be a Chinese tourist in transit, Guan Guan managed to visit and film eight cities in Xinjiang. In total, he found 18 suspicious camps - most surrounded by walls, barbed wire and watchtowers.


 
Hard to illicit a change when we continue to do business with China without demanding they make changes. We have a choice, stop doing business with the Chinese or at least curtail it. The alternative is do nothing for sake of he dollar. We made some strategic mistakes in China going back to Nixon with the open door trade policies and selling our technology to the Chinese as we used them for cheap labor to manufacture products. Now we need a massive retooling of US industry and technology. Instead of spending trillions on green new deals and pre-k and day care and solar and wind technology right now, we need to start producing our own products at home first.
 
Hard to illicit a change when we continue to do business with China without demanding they make changes. We have a choice, stop doing business with the Chinese or at least curtail it. The alternative is do nothing for sake of he dollar. We made some strategic mistakes in China going back to Nixon with the open door trade policies and selling our technology to the Chinese as we used them for cheap labor to manufacture products. Now we need a massive retooling of US industry and technology.
You had me so far . . . . . . . .
Instead of spending trillions on green new deals and pre-k and day care and solar and wind technology right now, we need to start producing our own products at home first.
. . . . and then you went off the rails.

These approaches are not mutually exclusive. Spending trillions on "green new deals" actually makes us more competitive with China, not less. And we very much should do less business with China.
 
Hard to illicit a change when we continue to do business with China without demanding they make changes. We have a choice, stop doing business with the Chinese or at least curtail it. The alternative is do nothing for sake of he dollar. We made some strategic mistakes in China going back to Nixon with the open door trade policies and selling our technology to the Chinese as we used them for cheap labor to manufacture products. Now we need a massive retooling of US industry and technology. Instead of spending trillions on green new deals and pre-k and day care and solar and wind technology right now, we need to start producing our own products at home first.

So you want the government to start businesses in the US to produce alternative products at cost, thereby undercutting the the Chinese?

Or you want the government to funnel billions of dollars into the hands of the rich so the rich can charge American consumers even more for products once made in China?
 
I have read that in the 1930s, there were reports about Herr Hitler's concentration camps.

But the West did nothing.

In fact, the New York Times (which at that time was actually a real newspaper) downplayed such reports. (The Jewish owner feared that anti-Semites in this country would say that his newspaper was publishing false news.)

The West ain't going to do anything about China's concentration camps, either.

(Of course, maybe some people might have a point when they point out that other nations did nothing when the United States rounded up 100,000 innocent Japanese Americans in California and sent them to "relocation camps.")
 
A Chinese activist who calls himself Guan Guan has now published a long report on Youtube with secretly filmed material from several of the region's camps.
By pretending to be a Chinese tourist in transit, Guan Guan managed to visit and film eight cities in Xinjiang. In total, he found 18 suspicious camps - most surrounded by walls, barbed wire and watchtowers.



I wonder how long before Youtube takes that video down for "misinformation" at the demand of the Chinese.
 
I have read that in the 1930s, there were reports about Herr Hitler's concentration camps.

But the West did nothing.

In fact, the New York Times (which at that time was actually a real newspaper) downplayed such reports. (The Jewish owner feared that anti-Semites in this country would say that his newspaper was publishing false news.)

The West ain't going to do anything about China's concentration camps, either.

(Of course, maybe some people might have a point when they point out that other nations did nothing when the United States rounded up 100,000 innocent Japanese Americans in California and sent them to "relocation camps.")

Is the goal of the Chinese government the extermination of all Turkic peoples?
 
You had me so far . . . . . . . .

. . . . and then you went off the rails.

These approaches are not mutually exclusive. Spending trillions on "green new deals" actually makes us more competitive with China, not less. And we very much should do less business with China.
We are over spending on GND at this point, we need to fix are manufacturing and technology to get products made in the USA. All that wind solar is not going to replace fossil fuel any time soon, like a long time away. We need production here. Right now we are depending on the wrong places for parts in the wind/solar market.
 
We are over spending on GND at this point, we need to fix are manufacturing and technology to get products made in the USA. All that wind solar is not going to replace fossil fuel any time soon, like a long time away. We need production here. Right now we are depending on the wrong places for parts in the wind/solar market.

And the way to do that is to increase prices for consumers, people who can barely afford to survive right now?
 
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