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BEIJING – Days before China's human rights record comes under scrutiny before a key U.N. panel, the government's grip on dissent seems as firm as ever.
Government critics have been rounded up and some imprisoned on vaguely defined state security charges. Corruption whistle-blowers have been bundled away, while discussion of sensitive political and social topics on the Internet remains tightly policed.
"China's rights record remains a matter of grave concern," said Nicholas Bequelin, Asia researcher for New York-based Human Rights Watch.
"No country has a perfect human rights record, but the problem with China is that it jails people who expose violations, maintains absolute censorship over state media and prevents victims of human rights abuses from finding justice," he said.
There are what - 1 billion citizens of China?
How many are permitted to post here at Debate Politics?
That alone should tell you something
Not for lack of trying.Amazing that they don't have their paid spammers on here like they do on other sites on the web.
Wow, attacking obama and standing up to beijing all in one stance.link
We know China's record is disgusting. Sadly, irresonsible US economic policies, which are only going to be excaerbated under Obama, are putting the US in a position where they can't really do too much to condemn these actions.
I completely agree with the man who recently threw a show at Premier Wen. It is about time for the West to stand up to the dictators in Beiping.
The first ignorant person steps up.There are what - 1 billion citizens of China?
How many are permitted to post here at Debate Politics?
That alone should tell you something
I'm curious jfuh. Do you consider me one of those "plainly ignorant people"?Wow, attacking obama and standing up to beijing all in one stance.
Asside from the usual hyperbolic hysteria that you use for plainly ignorant people with those key words for resonance - I'm curious, just how do you propose t "stand up to the dictators of Beijing"?
From what you've posted on "that alone should say something" yes, by all means - at least on this subject quite so.I'm curious jfuh. Do you consider me one of those "plainly ignorant people"?
If anyone is ignorant here it is you. Your attacking style alone brands you.From what you've posted on "that alone should say something" yes, by all means - at least on this subject quite so.
Oh right, this is when you turn around into the vicitimization strategy?If anyone is ignorant here it is you. Your attacking style alone brands you.
I know the IPs of every DP member.Maybe I should make a post or two next time just to prove while you check the IP logs.
:dohThere you go again.I know the IPs of every DP member.
I can't think of even one who regularly posts from mainland China.
Very strange for such an "open country" with a billion people.
Posting or not posting on this site doesn't mean squat.jfuh said:1. Of course we all know that everyone in the whole world speaks English and is fluent in reading and writing english.
2. with all the vial hatred of I'm not surprised that people in China wouldn't bother posting here. Should anyone there post any dissenting opinion to that of the board, they'll get a barage of nasties from the board as well as a slur of racist slandar against that go completely "un-noticed"
3. Yes, because we all know just how keen Chinese are to post on the world wide popular debate politics right?
So no, that alone doesn't say squat other than plain simple ignorance.
For the record, this site is not in anyway shape or form "censored" in china as you all here so self-righteously assume.
But that won't stop the assumptions and further self endowment of superiority.
Perhaps...:dohThere you go again.
Posting or not posting on this site doesn't mean squat.
Which means what?Perhaps...
Before I came to DP I was one of the Owners of the largest chatroom at MSN which was also international. 5,000-10,000 room visitors per day every day.
Once again, I can't recall even one visitor from China.
From what you've posted on "that alone should say something" yes, by all means - at least on this subject quite so.
Actually, there are posting members here at DP from each of the various nations you mentioned above.Which means what? Hey, I don't see any posters from Lithuania here, I don't see any posters from the netherlands here I don't see any from iceland, sweeden, switzerland, romania, spain, italy - yeah that must mean something must mean their nations censor.
Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaInternet censorship in the People's Republic of China is conducted under a wide variety of laws and administrative regulations. In accordance with these laws, more than sixty Internet regulations have been made by the People's Republic of China (PRC) government, and censorship systems are vigorously implemented by provincial branches of state-owned ISPs, business companies, and organizations.[1][2]
The apparatus of the PRC's Internet repression is considered more extensive and more advanced than in any other country in the world. The regime not only blocks website content but also monitors the internet access of individuals. Amnesty International notes that China “has the largest recorded number of imprisoned journalists and cyber-dissidents in the world.”
Wait and you would know this how?Actually, there are posting members here at DP from each of the various nations you mentioned above.
Look at this:
Debate Politics Forums - View All Members
See the blips on mainland China? Those are all spam-bot accounts that I haven't gotten around to banning yet. There is no member posting here from mainland China. As was evident during the Summer Olympic Games, many Chinese can speak at least a rudamentary English.
Who's denied such?Tashah said:Dismiss it all you want, but there is little doubt that the government of China monitors, filters, and blocks Internet access.
Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How can they both be posting during last summer yet then not permitted to post?There are what - 1 billion citizens of China?
How many are permitted to post here at Debate Politics?
That alone should tell you something
The first ignorant person steps up.
1. Of course we all know that everyone in the whole world speaks English and is fluent in reading and writing english.
2. with all the vial hatred of I'm not surprised that people in China wouldn't bother posting here. Should anyone there post any dissenting opinion to that of the board, they'll get a barage of nasties from the board as well as a slur of racist slandar against that go completely "un-noticed"
3. Yes, because we all know just how keen Chinese are to post on the world wide popular debate politics right?
So no, that alone doesn't say squat other than plain simple ignorance.
For the record, this site is not in anyway shape or form "censored" in china as you all here so self-righteously assume.
But that won't stop the assumptions and further self endowment of superiority.
Because that is how I arranged it.How can they both be posting during last summer yet then not permitted to post?
You obviously have no idea of Administrator powers.Keep drinking the koolaid.
Point is not ALWAYS accessable. Often times due to the rediculousness of servers in China just aren't decent enough to handle the capacity. Other times its because of censorship.Jfuh,
I've been to China on a few occasions. While many of the major news sites i.e., CNN and The New York Times, are accessible, those that have a lot of user-generated content i.e., sites hosted by GoDaddy or Geocities are not always accessible. Things are continuing to change, so that situation may also change in the future.
That is a HUGE shame.donsutherland1 said:
Speaking of change: One of Beijing's hutongs. Beijing's hutongs are continuing to disappear as the city replaces them with modern commercial and residential districts.
If this is sarcasm, it's in poor taste.Because that is how I arranged it.
You obviously have no idea of Administrator powers.
There are what - 1 billion citizens of China?
How many are permitted to post here at Debate Politics?
That alone should tell you something
Did you ever wonder why ?Perhaps...
Before I came to DP I was one of the Owners of the largest chatroom at MSN which was also international. 5,000-10,000 room visitors per day every day.
Once again, I can't recall even one visitor from China.
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